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* Still need underbase for polyester prints will an underbase like Green Galaxy’s Gamma Blocker be all i need or do i still need an additive?*

* want to use water based inks soft hand feel important for customer base *

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Hi so. My bf and i will be printing on ties and tees.
Ties = 100% polyester
Tees = 100% cotton
both arrived printing started. Need this to be profitable - **** has hit the fan folks, nuff said.
Set up as follows- heat press will be here tomorrow.
Speedball ink to get the hang of printing then would switch to something else(matsui, ithink)
emulsion (1 gallon dual core)
2 screens checking out diff mesh counts
2 station 4 screen press
heat gun
Degreaser
Screen washout stuff to reclaim
Brushes
Ton of transparencies - theyve been coming out good :eek:
500watt work lamp thing for curing emulsion
Essentially everything to print and ive tried a few simple designs so far, okay - on just TEES we'll see with more washes.
Still Have to tackle ties - polyester.

*Designs are simple ish
silouttes, outlines of animals places, texts-sayings, quotes, and on the bottom of all would be like that "scale of pain" thing you see at the drs but are my own characters featuring different emotions
Low in details but lots of stuff on one tee shooting for 2 - 3 colors, maybe more? Time will tell*

Now i dont know why but when doing all this research the past few months on and off (**** and fans) i seemed to completely overlook INKJET heat transfers. Heat transfers didnt seem to be a good option before but maybe it was poor research on my part.?


New to printing so would HT be better?
Or if it would hurt me if sales increase?Would i be looking at switching to screen printing if demand gets high to reduce costs?

Now that ive been trying to print and do design work it seems inkjets are possible for my project/substrates and might be a better option, am i just getting overwhelmed or would inkjet HT even be a good idea considering ink costs and the design work not being detailed but large ish?

TLDR : **** hit the fan, learning screen printing = time, time running out. Should i cut my loses with investment into basic ish set up and switch to ink jet heat transfers? Designs are largeish but low in detail 2-3 color. If switching to inkjet designs become more full color, might as well since its possible. Printing on 100% cotton tees and 100% polyester ties.
 

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* Still need underbase for polyester prints will an underbase like Green Galaxy’s Gamma Blocker be all i need or do i still need an additive?*

* want to use water based inks soft hand feel important for customer base *

TLDR at bottom

Hi so. My bf and i will be printing on ties and tees.
Ties = 100% polyester
Tees = 100% cotton
both arrived printing started. Need this to be profitable - **** has hit the fan folks, nuff said.
Set up as follows- heat press will be here tomorrow.
Speedball ink to get the hang of printing then would switch to something else(matsui, ithink)
emulsion (1 gallon dual core)
2 screens checking out diff mesh counts
2 station 4 screen press
heat gun
Degreaser
Screen washout stuff to reclaim
Brushes
Ton of transparencies - theyve been coming out good :eek:
500watt work lamp thing for curing emulsion
Essentially everything to print and ive tried a few simple designs so far, okay - on just TEES we'll see with more washes.
Still Have to tackle ties - polyester.

*Designs are simple ish
silouttes, outlines of animals places, texts-sayings, quotes, and on the bottom of all would be like that "scale of pain" thing you see at the drs but are my own characters featuring different emotions
Low in details but lots of stuff on one tee shooting for 2 - 3 colors, maybe more? Time will tell*

Now i dont know why but when doing all this research the past few months on and off (**** and fans) i seemed to completely overlook INKJET heat transfers. Heat transfers didnt seem to be a good option before but maybe it was poor research on my part.?


New to printing so would HT be better?
Or if it would hurt me if sales increase?Would i be looking at switching to screen printing if demand gets high to reduce costs?

Now that ive been trying to print and do design work it seems inkjets are possible for my project/substrates and might be a better option, am i just getting overwhelmed or would inkjet HT even be a good idea considering ink costs and the design work not being detailed but large ish?

TLDR : **** hit the fan, learning screen printing = time, time running out. Should i cut my loses with investment into basic ish set up and switch to ink jet heat transfers? Designs are largeish but low in detail 2-3 color. If switching to inkjet designs become more full color, might as well since its possible. Printing on 100% cotton tees and 100% polyester ties.
We sublimate ties often, they come out great. I would recommend looking into that.
For cotton shirts the preferred way is screen print, right to the shirt.
Next would be a screen print transfer, same results as screen printing but your supplier did all the messy stuff.
3rd would be HTV, cut on a plotter or eco solvent printed and contour cut.
4th would be inkjet transfers on an opaque film.

I did NOT included JPSS in this as that is mostly for white shirts and "most people" want to put the designs on dark color shirts like black etc. But that is a great pick if your doing white shirts.

I also did NOT included DTG as the costs are pretty high for the equipment and they need to be kept busy. To get the return on your investment as well as keeping the thing running...they dont tend to like to sit idle for long...so if this type of printing interests you wait till you are doing a large volume of shirts every week.

Screen printing is a talent and to get good at it, it takes time and experience on the press to develop your talent. I highly recommend learning it. You all ready have the equipment (I would get a small flash dryer vrs the heat gun though) practice on it. There are tons of videos on youtube that will pretty much teach you basics and even some pretty advanced stuff.

Good luck either way.
 

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* Still need underbase for polyester prints will an underbase like Green Galaxy’s Gamma Blocker be all i need or do i still need an additive?*

* want to use water based inks soft hand feel important for customer base *

TLDR at bottom

Hi so. My bf and i will be printing on ties and tees.
Ties = 100% polyester
Tees = 100% cotton
both arrived printing started. Need this to be profitable - **** has hit the fan folks, nuff said.
Set up as follows- heat press will be here tomorrow.
Speedball ink to get the hang of printing then would switch to something else(matsui, ithink)
emulsion (1 gallon dual core)
2 screens checking out diff mesh counts
2 station 4 screen press
heat gun
Degreaser
Screen washout stuff to reclaim
Brushes
Ton of transparencies - theyve been coming out good

500watt work lamp thing for curing emulsion
Essentially everything to print and ive tried a few simple designs so far, okay - on just TEES we'll see with more washes.
Still Have to tackle ties - polyester.

*Designs are simple ish
silouttes, outlines of animals places, texts-sayings, quotes, and on the bottom of all would be like that "scale of pain" thing you see at the drs but are my own characters featuring different emotions
Low in details but lots of stuff on one tee shooting for 2 - 3 colors, maybe more? Time will tell*

Now i dont know why but when doing all this research the past few months on and off (**** and fans) i seemed to completely overlook INKJET heat transfers. Heat transfers didnt seem to be a good option before but maybe it was poor research on my part.?


New to printing so would HT be better?
Or if it would hurt me if sales increase?Would i be looking at switching to screen printing if demand gets high to reduce costs?

Now that ive been trying to print and do design work it seems inkjets are possible for my project/substrates and might be a better option, am i just getting overwhelmed or would inkjet HT even be a good idea considering ink costs and the design work not being detailed but large ish?

TLDR : **** hit the fan, learning screen printing = time, time running out. Should i cut my loses with investment into basic ish set up and switch to ink jet heat transfers? Designs are largeish but low in detail 2-3 color. If switching to inkjet designs become more full color, might as well since its possible. Printing on 100% cotton tees and 100% polyester ties.
We sublimate ties often, they come out great. I would recommend looking into that.
For cotton shirts the preferred way is screen print, right to the shirt.
Next would be a screen print transfer, same results as screen printing but your supplier did all the messy stuff.
3rd would be HTV, cut on a plotter or eco solvent printed and contour cut.
4th would be inkjet transfers on an opaque film.

I did NOT included JPSS in this as that is mostly for white shirts and "most people" want to put the designs on dark color shirts like black etc. But that is a great pick if your doing white shirts.

I also did NOT included DTG as the costs are pretty high for the equipment and they need to be kept busy. To get the return on your investment as well as keeping the thing running...they dont tend to like to sit idle for long...so if this type of printing interests you wait till you are doing a large volume of shirts every week.

Screen printing is a talent and to get good at it, it takes time and experience on the press to develop your talent. I highly recommend learning it. You all ready have the equipment (I would get a small flash dryer vrs the heat gun though) practice on it. There are tons of videos on youtube that will pretty much teach you basics and even some pretty advanced stuff.

Good luck either way.
Wondering if i got it right but with Dye sub dont i need a dryer thats special (induction or having a form of ventalation)because of the nature of dye sub?
 

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You don't need a dryer of any kind for dyesub. You simply print your transfer in reverse and press it onto your garment (or mug, bag, slate,... whatever).

Press temperatures are usually between 180 and 200 degrees C.

Dyesub only works on items containing a polymer such as polyester garments, and items that have been specially coated for the purpose.
 

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if it is only 1-2 colors then htv might be the best option here

dye-sub for the ties will save you some time over htv,
plus you open up other product options

but as mentioned it is only for 100%poly white tee's,
whereas the htv is for any color tee
 
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