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hello eveyone i am just starting out i am a total newbie in screenprinting. anyway my uncle sent me this picutre and he wanted me to try to screen print it. but i have no idea on how to separate it. should i just spot separate it or go cmyk process or simulated process? hope someone can give me an advice. ill attach the pic here. ill only be using a manual press. tnx again.
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separating in like vectors ?
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I am not sure how you can separate it as spot colors, or if the result would be desirable, but CMYK separations is relatively easy using graphics programs like photoshop. For simulated process, usually for dark colored shirts, color separation programs/plug-ins like T-seps, Quickseps, and others sure comes in handy making the process easy.
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darkcast said:
separating in like vectors ?
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no sir what i mean is color separations. :)
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Before you can separate you need to know what colors you have, look for other examples of this photo. By going to google images I found many, here is one made by an art student use them as a guide and decide for your self. Good Luck :D

"silver (Aluminum) Replica of the Nuestra Señora de la Soledad de Porta Vaga" Art Project | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

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hello eveyone i am just starting out i am a total newbie in screenprinting. anyway my uncle sent me this picutre and he wanted me to try to screen print it. but i have no idea on how to separate it. should i just spot separate it or go cmyk process or simulated process? hope someone can give me an advice. ill attach the pic here. ill only be using a manual press. tnx again.
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Eview1 said:
Before you can separate you need to know what colors you have, look for other examples of this photo. By going to google images I found many, here is one made by an art student use them as a guide and decide for your self. Good Luck :D

"silver (Aluminum) Replica of the Nuestra Señora de la Soledad de Porta Vaga" Art Project | Flickr - Photo Sharing!
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tnx alot sir. :)
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Not trying to sound negative, but this would be a very advanced screenprint. Every aspect of this, from the separations, to the screenmaking, to the registration, and printing would be very difficult for a newbie.

I am not trying to rain on anyones parade, but I really think in screen printing you are much better off learning slowly. I would try to find a line art version of this, and print it in black and white, and then maybe add a spot color or two. I think you will be much happier, and learn a lot more about screen printing and basic trouble shooting than if you get too far over your head.

Good luck!
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Flagrant-T said:
Not trying to sound negative, but this would be a very advanced screenprint. Every aspect of this, from the separations, to the screenmaking, to the registration, and printing would be very difficult for a newbie.

I am not trying to rain on anyones parade, but I really think in screen printing you are much better off learning slowly. I would try to find a line art version of this, and print it in black and white, and then maybe add a spot color or two. I think you will be much happier, and learn a lot more about screen printing and basic trouble shooting than if you get too far over your head.

Good luck!
Nick
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its ok sir. :) thats also what i sad to my uncle. we should just print in black and white. because i dont have that much experience in screen printing. but just a question what method will you use for the image? will cmyk be much better or simulated? it will be printed on a white shirt btw. :) tnx again sir.
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I would try CMYK on a white shirt, only 4 screens. If you have coreldraw, it will automatically separate it into CMYK. Its not always as accurate as manually separating it in Photoshop, but sometimes the results are suprisingly excellent.

Good luck!
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Flagrant-T said:
I would try CMYK on a white shirt, only 4 screens. If you have coreldraw, it will automatically separate it into CMYK. Its not always as accurate as manually separating it in Photoshop, but sometimes the results are suprisingly excellent.

Good luck!
Nick
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ok tnx alot sir. :)
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it should always be the image that determines how a job needs to be separated.. There is no doubt in my mind the most accurate way to consistantly reproduce this image is index seps.. especially since you are on a manual press... cmyk is too inconsistant on a manual because it is so "pressure sensitive" plus other annoying factors which involve cmyk.. Simulated process is another route, but looking at your image, it has a "weatherd and old feel to it" index seps on a manual press is definitely the way to go. take my advice or not my friend but every single day my shop prints images that are sim process or index.. i can guide you further if you would like to private message me.
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I have not tried index but seems like a good image to try index on. I think many will appreciate it if you post the guide instead of PM. Regards
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it should always be the image that determines how a job needs to be separated.. There is no doubt in my mind the most accurate way to consistantly reproduce this image is index seps.. especially since you are on a manual press... cmyk is too inconsistant on a manual because it is so "pressure sensitive" plus other annoying factors which involve cmyk.. Simulated process is another route, but looking at your image, it has a "weatherd and old feel to it" index seps on a manual press is definitely the way to go. take my advice or not my friend but every single day my shop prints images that are sim process or index.. i can guide you further if you would like to private message me.
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Index may be the ideal procedure but considering the OP's capability in printing (as a noob), he will be more safer with Simulated process. And if he will be using water-based inks, index will be painful in maintaining his screens.
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jsf said:
Index may be the ideal procedure but considering the OP's capability in printing (as a noob), he will be more safer with Simulated process. And if he will be using water-based inks, index will be painful in maintaining his screens.
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tnx sir. actually sa november pa need yung design. he just gave it to me earlier so that i can practice printing because he knows that i am still new to screen printing. :) the design will be used for our city fiesta on the second Sunday of November. :)
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Black shirt. Halftone effect on Photoshop. Use white and gold. Black shirt will count as third color. Closest you'll probably get if your gonna screen print it. 300 screen
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Wheel*E Ind. said:
Black shirt. Halftone effect on Photoshop. Use white and gold. Black shirt will count as third color. Closest you'll probably get if your gonna screen print it. 300 screen
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tnx alot sir. :)
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scubadan
Check out this helpful video.... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmspWZqbc2Q[/media]

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Try this video. it should answer some questions. [media]http://vimeo.com/2811225[/media]
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A really good process separation will nail that no problemo. But it has to be REALLY GOOD. Just no cmyk conversion in Photoshop will do.
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Jimmytees said:
A really good process separation will nail that no problemo. But it has to be REALLY GOOD. Just no cmyk conversion in Photoshop will do.
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Can you share with us the "really good process separation" that can only be achieved outside PS?
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