Well said and I plan to use that analogy in the future. I still say buy nothing smaller than a 15x15 press. You can use smaller and keep moving the garment around to press a bigger design. the money for the larger press will be much better than wasteing extra time pressing the same garment more than once. I hope this addition to a fine cooment is worthwhile. Moto, I now have a new IDOL and I salute you my friend. .... JBI can take a phillips head screw out with a flat head screw driver but it isnt efficient enough not to warrant the right tool for the right job.