Ghost White Toner

I've never used the Ghost Toner but I believe you may be asking the wrong question.

The HP printers run very hot and I think you're going to have an issue finding transfer papers that will work with it and not jam. I am almost positive, for example, that you'll not be able to use the Forever papers with the HP.

Personally, I'd stick with the OKI products. They, and their toner, is specifically designed for use with T-Shirt transfer papers.

I am not in any way affiliated nor endorse these products. Just passing information for cheaper alternative for printer with white toner. Ghost white printer and toner is now available in US.

Letter size HP Color LaserJet Pro M452dw Printer with White Ink

Tabloid: HP Color LaserJet CP5225dn Printer with White Ink

http://player.vimeo.com/video/244136090?title=0&byline=0&portrait=0

https://vimeo.com/244104896?from=outro-embed

It is two pass printing system though. The advantage over the single pass CMYW printer is the black is true black. But may be subject to registration issue when printing twice on the same sheet.

Lnfortun said:

I am not in any way affiliated nor endorse these products. Just passing information for cheaper alternative for printer with white toner. Ghost white printer and toner is now available in US.

Letter size HP Color LaserJet Pro M452dw Printer with White Ink

Tabloid: HP Color LaserJet CP5225dn Printer with White Ink

http://player.vimeo.com/video/244136090?title=0&byline=0&portrait=0

https://vimeo.com/244104896?from=outro-embed

It is two pass printing system though. The advantage over the single pass CMYW printer is the black is true black. But may be subject to registration issue when printing twice on the same sheet.

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I have watched this site you have listed above, but didn't want to buy the printer without being able to buy replacement toner later when the initial ones run out. Where can you get them? I don't see them on the links provided. Just original package

sverrell said:

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I have watched this site you have listed above, but didn't want to buy the printer without being able to buy replacement toner later when the initial ones run out. Where can you get them? I don't see them on the links provided. Just original package

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You can get the toner directly for Ghost White in Germany https://www.ghost-white-toner.com/. Shipping cost will kill you though. Ask USCutter if they will provide the toner if you buy the printer from them.

Yes shipping is the problem , I was quoted $60 for 1 HP cart

Im in the market for this same machine. I called uscutter and they told me in the next couple weeks they will have the white toner in their seattle and other warehouse.

sandhopper2 said:

Yes shipping is the problem , I was quoted $60 for 1 HP cart

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do you currently have the printer? looking for some real world feedback before I purchase..
as for shipping, the unit is way cheaper than the OK so I'll pay the $60 shipping for the toner cuz id probably order a few at a time

I have a HP printer , but I do not have the white toner yet. I'm hoping to find someone with the ghost toner to tell me if it works . I was quoted $165 for the cart and $60 to ship .

The A4 size may be larger then the HP printer produces.
If so you can always go to a Oki c831n to use only white toner in place of the black toner and print the color
with a Epson 7210 sublimation ink jet printer by using the Image Clip dark paper. Print the color on the B sheet and the white on the A sheet.
Register them on a LED light table and then marry the two papers together before pressing onto the dark cotton shirt.
This process will give you a higher resolution, brighter colors and 95% less cracking because of less toners being used.
AL
[email protected]
1-908-213-2830

the concept is cool but if your trying to print an image and then print white behind it your in for a rude awakening. the paper never lines up exactly twice, so its always a little off. which might not be a problem depending on what your doing. Most paper you cant feed twice because it will jam. Forever laser dark seems to be the only one i can feed twice. Hope this helps

I was at the International Sportswear Show (ISS) all four days last week. I went to the US Cutter booth each to check out the HP 5225DN printer with the Ghost White toner. I have watched the demo video from US Cutter using a smaller printer with letter size transfer and it appeared to work perfectly. However, at the show with the bigger printer, they could not get the registration to line up on the second pass. On the last day, the guy from US Cutter was totally exasperated and did not even want to try anymore. Maybe the bigger printer has a harder time with registration issues or is hotter and shrinks the transfer film more. They were using Forever Dark. The Forever rep from Germany was at the booth and seemed very uninterested in the problem. I want to try Al's solution but would like to find someone who is using it.

I couldn't get near the US Cutter booth at ISS-AC last friday. I spent about an hour at the OKI booth, they were pressing shirts as fast as they could marry and press them. They were pushing me towards the 8432 which I have to say I was impressed by what I saw... right up until I came home and looked here and see people having trouble with the 8432's.

sublial said:

You should read over what I posted to you.
1 You print with your sublimation ink jet printer the color print onto the {B} paper of the Image Clip for Darks

2- Then you print with the white toner of the Oki the same design in Mirror image as a white mask. Choke it about 1000th smaller.

3- Put the two papers together over a LED light table to register them exactly and then press them onto each other. Peel hot.

4- press the {A} paper onto the dark color shirt and peel cold.

You don,t print onto the same paper twice

AL 1-908-213-2830
[email protected]

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Al,

On step 2 the image must be solid black so that all the color including white will transfer on A sheet. Just printing the same image in grayscale (mirrored) will not transfer white and anything light color including gradient will drop out during weeding.

Luis, Yes you are right about making the image a solid black of the design to print the MASK of solid white.
Thanks for helping to clarify it.

The HP will have the same problem as the Oki laser toners cracking. They use plastic resins also and that is the cause of poor wash/dryer fastness and cracking.
I started that process in 2006 and never achieved consistant results until I realized the real problem is the RESINS in the toners that causes the cracking. Sublimation ink doesn,t have resins in it.
AL
1-908-213-2830

I am also looking at the Ghost white toner, I bought an HP M533N 1200x1200 dpi, figuring the more dpi the more ink would help it stick, I have had some good luck with the transfers the image goes on no jamming with DIGI-TRANS and TECHNIPRINT EZP, but the wash is what is killing me, cold water inside out low heat, and I get some weird creasing not quite cracking. I haven't tried forever paper yet do you think it stands up better to the washes and will the ghost white toner with another layer help it stick more and hold up more?

I had a hell of a time looking up differences in laser printer toner types, i know ink and toner are different but I could not find why to use OKI toner over HP toner? so at this point I am just troubleshooting the wash.. how long can it stand up in the wash.

It doesn,t matter what laser printer toner you use they all have the PLASTIC RESINS and that is the cracking and poor wash and drier problems. Some papers don,t hold up in the dryer as well also.

Sublimation Ink only has DYES and Water. No plastic resins to cause the problem.
AL [email protected]

sublial said:

It doesn,t matter what laser printer toner you use they all have the PLASTIC RESINS and that is the cracking and poor wash and drier problems. Some papers don,t hold up in the dryer as well also.

Sublimation Ink only has DYES and Water. No plastic resins to cause the problem.
AL [email protected]

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I totally appreciate what you are saying but is there anything that will hold up more than 1 wash? or use Ink and that is it? all these papers and different printers and your suggesting that nothing laser related will work because of the plastic resins?

thx

Ty.

paradigmprint said:

I've never used the Ghost Toner but I believe you may be asking the wrong question.

The HP printers run very hot and I think you're going to have an issue finding transfer papers that will work with it and not jam. I am almost positive, for example, that you'll not be able to use the Forever papers with the HP.

Personally, I'd stick with the OKI products. They, and their toner, is specifically designed for use with T-Shirt transfer papers.

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Hey Joe - this is exactly my findings so far in my testing of Ghost. The Ghost toner is very comparable to the OKI white toner - the problem is the HP printer!