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Customer supplied the artwork and I separated the design into base white, light blue, dark blue, red, yellow and green. This is to go on the left crest and is 4" wide. All the screens were made, set up, shirt sample produced and then showed to the customer. But she didn't like it.:confused: The customer was expecting a solid green, a solid light blue, a solid orange etc. Customer wasn't expecting us to follow the design. huh?

Sooooooooooo all the screens was taken down and off to be reclaimed. Another set of screens will be made and paid for with federally funded money. But anyway here are pictures of the shirt that wasn't meant to be. The first picture is the flattend image of the original vector. The other two is the actual print. We only had one shirt made.:)
 

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Customer supplied the artwork and I separated the design into base white, light blue, dark blue, red, yellow and green. This is to go on the left crest and is 4" wide. All the screens were made, set up, shirt sample produced and then showed to the customer. But she didn't like it.:confused: The customer was expecting a solid green, a solid light blue, a solid orange etc. Customer wasn't expecting us to follow the design. huh?

Sooooooooooo all the screens was taken down and off to be reclaimed. Another set of screens will be made and paid for with federally funded money. But anyway here are pictures of the shirt that wasn't meant to be. The first picture is the flattend image of the original vector. The other two is the actual print. We only had one shirt made.:)

what line count and mesh were you using? Boy thats a bummer, probably isnt gonna like it the new way two, cause its not going to look anything like her original art?
 

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what line count and mesh were you using? Boy thats a bummer, probably isnt gonna like it the new way two, cause its not going to look anything like her original art?

she didnt mean not such big dots more or less higher line count, did she? Thats why i was wondering what LPI you used? If that underbase was smoother it might lay a little better. But dang looks pretty close to the sample.

If it were me i would show her a new proof with all vector no halftones like she asked before burning 6 new screens?
 

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No she really wanted solid colors. We've done some in the past with their own artwork as solid colors. I think there was some kind of misunderstanding with their artist or something. I already sent her a new proof with solid colors. It is approved and ready to go.

This was done at 55lpi
 

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I would suggest that you talk to your customer(s) more before producing a sample. I wouldn't have liked your sample either, even if it was an attempt to accurately reproduce the art. Quite frankly the visible big dots are ugly on such a small print, especially on the text. The whole thing looks rough and muddy. You have to be able to decipher expectations, and sometimes simplifying and reducing the number of colors and/or removing color fades produces -perhaps a less "accurate" reproduction- but a better print and a happier customer.
 

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I would suggest that you talk to your customer(s) more before producing a sample. I wouldn't have liked your sample either, even if it was an attempt to accurately reproduce the art. Quite frankly the visible big dots are ugly on such a small print, especially on the text. The whole thing looks rough and muddy. You have to be able to decipher expectations, and sometimes simplifying and reducing the number of colors and/or removing color fades produces -perhaps a less "accurate" reproduction- but a better print and a happier customer.
They agreed it was their fault. No big deal. They gave me the artwork. I picked up the work order and just did what they wanted. I understand small artwork should be converted to line art which I usually recommend. I'm usually way ahead of the customer but this time I let my guard down. I didn't want to take a way from their graphic artist who did it. I showed them a proof before we went to press anyway and I was just hella busy. Pushing out screen printing jobs as fast as I could and at the same time pushing out offset jobs as fast as I could. As far as dots go it looks fine from 2' away.:)
 

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Hey. I've been away from the game for some time but did a lot of process work in the 80's and 90's and looking at these images I would say your biggest issue is with the wide knit of the fabric. Do people not count threads any more? Fact is, it doesn't matter how you approach this. You need more ink down but also a smaller dot and as the knit is so course it will not be achieved unless printed with a base and the art reworked as simulated. The logo is simple enough to achieve the smooth blends your customer craves.
 

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Hey. I've been away from the game for some time but did a lot of process work in the 80's and 90's and looking at these images I would say your biggest issue is with the wide knit of the fabric. Do people not count threads any more? Fact is, it doesn't matter how you approach this. You need more ink down but also a smaller dot and as the knit is so course it will not be achieved unless printed with a base and the art reworked as simulated. The logo is simple enough to achieve the smooth blends your customer craves.
Yes I'm aware of the thread count issue. But it's something I would ignore sometimes. The customer just preferred the other version of the logo anyway.
 
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