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It's because with a water based ink, you need larger volumes of ink to get a solid print. With white ink, to get the opacity you need, more nozzles are always better. On the F2000, there are 1,440 white ink nozzles so it can really lay the white ink down. Also being a lower viscosity of ink, more ink is needed to get the desired result. So in one sense, yes it does help speed, but it's not the only reason.
 

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It's because with a water based ink, you need larger volumes of ink to get a solid print. With white ink, to get the opacity you need, more nozzles are always better. On the F2000, there are 1,440 white ink nozzles so it can really lay the white ink down. Also being a lower viscosity of ink, more ink is needed to get the desired result. So in one sense, yes it does help speed, but it's not the only reason.
Thank again for answering my question :)

I've just checked the price here in Belgium it's 20.500€+- that's a loads higher price then in the USA :( but i'm more and more confident about taking that one :)
 

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Cymk only choice is belong ALL DTG. It means do not need to be Epson only is my honest opinion. Brother 541 used will do excellent job also.
Consider all points. ink price(not Brother), service, maintenance, warranty, speed, quality out put etc.
But $$$$$ is in Dark and All Colored shirts.
EPSON's strongest point is Less Maintenace on White ink. Perfect to who worry about Clogging and maintenances. And who does not have enough job to run at start.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.
 

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It is 16.995 € in France
and ink price 280 euros per liters !


I don"t understand what motivated you to get this printer.
Sorry the € 20500 is the price in Nederland (look like their gave me the wrong info about that...) i've just reached and contacted a sales representer from Epson Belgium that gave me their only resaler in whole Belgium.. to bad for me their closed early on Friday :( looks ill need to wait till Monday to receive my answer on their prices.

My motivation on Epson F2000 WH is their size of printing area, they print white, make great quality, have a good support thats only at 1h driving from my place and if they are to slow with their support, theres still a Epson support on the crossborder of Germany (whois also reachable from my place)

Like almost every knows and say "there's no THE PERFECT printer" but Epson size of printing area helped me a lot to find my need. (without taking a look at all my other needs of creation)
 

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Cymk only choice is belong ALL DTG. It means do not need to be Epson only is my honest opinion. Brother 541 used will do excellent job also.
Consider all points. ink price(not Brother), service, maintenance, warranty, speed, quality out put etc.
But $$$$$ is in Dark and All Colored shirts.
EPSON's strongest point is Less Maintenace on White ink. Perfect to who worry about Clogging and maintenances. And who does not have enough job to run at start.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.
Thats what i'm going to find out monday about their prices and more detailed resaler info.

I need white what not all DTG have :) white = loads of problems but when you look the Epson F2000 WH, maintenace systeme and white circulation system... looks just amazing vs a lot other DTG white printers
 

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Thats what i'm going to find out monday about their prices and more detailed resaler info.

I need white what not all DTG have :) white = loads of problems but when you look the Epson F2000 WH, maintenace systeme and white circulation system... looks just amazing vs a lot other DTG white printers
I'm not against Epson but I think you should reaserch more about DTG, because most of the problems you've mentioned with modified DTG are long ago resolved by the industry, also the printing size is as any 4880/3880 based modified printer.
 

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I'm not against Epson but I think you should reaserch more about DTG, because most of the problems you've mentioned with modified DTG are long ago resolved by the industry, also the printing size is as any 4880/3880 based modified printer.
Wich one would you suggest? if my main concern is to have a Printing size area of 400mm x 500mm? white color needed, high quality on light/dark colored shirts and good support? + ink prices :)
 

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In Europe - Texjet, neoflex, DTG VIPER 2, R-Jet 5, Rainbow printer, Azon, a lot to chooose from.
In all my research there are only 2 DTG printers that respect my "main request of the printing" : Epson F2000WH and Neoflex... i've made a big research on the Neoflex and atm it looks like Epson sold me to Neoflex on a few points... Epson got some to proov on me vs the Neoflex :) still doing more research on Epson and Neoflex but it looks like i'm allready sold at Neoflex lol
 

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Sorry for reviving the thread but i think this post is the closest topic to my question,
i was getting a quote from an well-known supplier and i asked them the difference between the 'White Edition' and the 'Standard Edition' and i was told as below:
"The F2000 white and color editions are exactly the same machines, just packaged with a different assortment of ink cartridges."

Is the above correct? so basically the machines are exactly the same depending on the cartridges i put in them?

Because on the Epson official website, the white and the standard/color are listed as two different products but with the same price and most of the online suppliers i found do not differentiate between the 2.

Suppliers are pricing it at $15,000 saying it has an Epson $4000 rebate, is it because Epson is going to push out a new printer soon?
 
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