Epson F2000 - Garment Creator colors

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Copenhagen

Discussion Starter · Mar 19, 2014 (Edited)

I got the Epson F2000 printer, and many good things about that...the best is that I can print directly with Garment creator from Illustrator on my mac using the script/plug-in....that is fantastic!

But I am not so impressed with the colors, the are very pale with one strike. I have tried double strike but don't think it is great to print twice since the fabric easily moves a little when it get wet, and you can tell on thin lines

Also 2 strike maybe get to dark and darker colors just get very very dark and all colors get a lot of dark dither.

Black looks ok with one strike, but not when washed, so that needs two strike as well.

Also it seems like it can not print cold yellow or pink/magenta colors at all....I am surpassed since all my other Epson printers all have great color profiles.

Any advice, I am comparing to my old Texjet printer that used Ergosoft RIP.

I think it is very simple to use Garment Creator, and printing from Mac is great for me, but I am not sure how much adjustment can be done in the software, I would like to add more ink to single strike print.

If I have to use a RIP I will loose the simple way to print from my Mac, so I want to find a way to get this to work, and I don't want to test and adjust for each print, I want to be able to do it once so it works with all prints.

All suggestions welcome

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JeridHill

· #2 · Mar 19, 2014

You can boost your white and color. In order to get a nice white with a single pass, you must use a good quality shirt. The better the quality of shirt, the better the white.

You can print the white at a Level 2 and max out your white ink saturation. On the colors, you can print at a Level 1 or 2, but you can boost your colors a little more. Once you have your settings, you can save the preset for next time. See attached image.

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Copenhagen

Discussion Starter · #3 · Mar 19, 2014

Hi Jerid,

At this point I have not printed white at all..I mostly print colors on different white fabrics.

I did some test where I used +50% and +100 % in the ink density mode. It made more or less the same as double strike....but it is like it is just adding a lot of black, not to prette in darker tones.

I have tried printing pink and purple and that is completely off, it is brown and not anything near pink

At the dealer I did one test with my colour squares on a black t-shirt and for some reason it seems like it had a much better colour profile there, the pink and purple got much better ??

I am worried about those missing colors, no cold yellow, no pink, magenta or purple....I noticed already when testing at the dealer.

Do you use pretreatment 1:2 or 1:3 ?

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Copenhagen

Discussion Starter · #4 · Mar 19, 2014

forgot....I have printed on max quality....see they call that level 3...so that is maybe to much ? why I get all the dark/black dither ?

JeridHill

· #5 · Mar 19, 2014

When printing on white shirts, each brand and style of shirt can effect the final print. If you are pretreating, you would get more of a consistent result. The standard settings in Garment Creator should work. Try using a Level 1 or 2 setting with a saturation of 25.

Copenhagen

Discussion Starter · #6 · Mar 19, 2014

Trust me, I have tried many shirt qualities and many different fabric qualities (not t-shirt just flat fabric) and it can not print pink, purple or cold yellow on any of them......I really hope they will fix the colour profile.....also hope they will make firmware update so the fan doesn't run all the time when printer is "sleeping" , very noise in my studio now

JeridHill

· #7 · Mar 19, 2014

Currently our printer is heading to California from a trade show and I can't do any tests. It would be more beneficial to talk to the company you purchased the printer from. If you are saying theirs is printing better than yours, they may be able to help you quicker. There are no customers here in the states with these printers yet, they are shipping this week. I'm assuming there are very few customers overall that have this printer as well. Without knowing everything your experiencing, it will be difficult to troubleshoot over the forums. Good luck and let us know your results in the end.

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Copenhagen

Discussion Starter · #8 · Mar 19, 2014

thanks...no I saw same colour issues at my dealer....the printer is new for him as well----...I thought the printer had shipped in the US already so hope some people had figured something out....here it arrived just before x-mss and I got mine 2 weeks ago......

best,
Helle

Smalzstein

· #9 · Mar 19, 2014

You may ask Peter from All american to supply you with Kothari RIP demo or Harry from equipement zone to provide cadlink RIP demo.

Maybe that could solve your issue. There were a lot of discussion earlier about garment creator beeing a lot inferior to RIP, I personely thought that was a sellstalk from RIP distributors but it seems that they might be right.

JeridHill

· #10 · Mar 19, 2014

Smalzstein said:
You may ask Peter from All american to supply you with Kothari RIP demo or Harry from equipement zone to provide cadlink RIP demo..

We have a RIP as well, but the OP was asking about GC because they are using a Mac and do not want to have to invest in non-Mac based PC software for the Epson.

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Copenhagen

Discussion Starter · #11 · Mar 19, 2014

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The printer and software is new so I hope things can be changed along the way if information gets to the right people

....I love the printer and I love SO much that I can print from my MAC and directly from Illustrator that is the best thing ever, so I WANT this GC to work.....

I printed a density test, and interesting enough the magenta looked magenta....so I just did a test, made a 100% magenta block and one a little darker and printed...attached screenshot of file and the result , nothing close to magenta

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JeridHill

· #12 · Mar 19, 2014

In Illustrator, are you working in RGB or CMYK mode? Whichever, try switching to see if there is a difference.

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allamerican-aeoon

· #13 · Mar 19, 2014

Copenhagen said:
Hi Jerid,

At this point I have not printed white at all..I mostly print colors on different white fabrics.

I did some test where I used +50% and +100 % in the ink density mode. It made more or less the same as double strike....but it is like it is just adding a lot of black, not to prette in darker tones.

I have tried printing pink and purple and that is completely off, it is brown and not anything near pink

At the dealer I did one test with my colour squares on a black t-shirt and for some reason it seems like it had a much better colour profile there, the pink and purple got much better ??

I am worried about those missing colors, no cold yellow, no pink, magenta or purple....I noticed already when testing at the dealer.

Do you use pretreatment 1:2 or 1:3 ?

Send me your art work.
I won't not modify or touch anything on your art.
I will Just print and send printed shirts back to you for your judging.
Please make sure let us know what is your opinion would be.
Want to tell TSF members that How important RIP's job is.
Cheers! Inks are on me always.

equipmentzone

· #14 · Mar 19, 2014

Copenhagen said:
The printer and software is new so I hope things can be changed along the way if information gets to the right people ....I love the printer and I love SO much that I can print from my MAC and directly from Illustrator that is the best thing ever, so I WANT this GC to work.....

I printed a density test, and interesting enough the magenta looked magenta....so I just did a test, made a 100% magenta block and one a little darker and printed...attached screenshot of file and the result , nothing close to magenta

You are able to run the pc based RIP's on your MAC using the Apple Boot Camp utility if you wanted to.

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Copenhagen

Discussion Starter · #15 · Mar 19, 2014

I know I can use Bootcamp, but then it is not easy any longer...this is easy and I have faith, the perfect update will arrive

equipmentzone

· #16 · Mar 19, 2014

How long have you now been using the F2000?

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Copenhagen

Discussion Starter · #17 · Mar 19, 2014

Got it 2 weeks ago, and been very busy....so I am just testing materials and color tones right now.

Copenhagen

Discussion Starter · #18 · Mar 19, 2014

Jerid, first thing I tested was to see if there was any difference printing from RGB or CMYK, but no....

And Peter , ooohh I am glad you didn't say beer is on you

Where should I mail one of my files.....do you have contact with the Epson people over there in the US ?

yes RIP is important, my old Ergosoft for Texjet was good, but this is so much more simple and I love that, and I never used all the features in Ergosoft anyway....and I am sure Epson can make a great colorprofile

thanks for all your input I appreciate it

H

Smalzstein

· #19 · Mar 19, 2014

JeridHill said:
We have a RIP as well, but the OP was asking about GC because they are using a Mac and do not want to have to invest in non-Mac based PC software for the Epson.

I stand corrected. I thought that I've read before that you haven't decided on one yet.

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allamerican-aeoon

· #20 · Mar 20, 2014

Smalzstein said:
I stand corrected. I thought that I've read before that you haven't decided on one yet.

Consistency is always stands for tell us who we really are.

Change as it flow?
Cheers! Inks are on me always.

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