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Hi, We are currently using an Epson 3000 printer, which is used for transparency film (17x22)- we are a t-shirt screen printing company and make halftones, line art and process colors. I am currently using The standard Epson inks for the printer, Ulano Dye Inkjet film USA "C" DIJF4356CM-100 . We recently purchased a refurbed Epson 3000 because our old one had some really old heads that were giving us several printing issues. With this new (refurbed one) I have been pulling my hair out - I used to do line shots/art using the Epson driver and use PowerRip X for the halftones, however, with the replacement printer here, any line art I try to print using the Epson drivers, the ink lays down WAY too thick.... so thick, that even after letting it dry overnight, it's still coming off on the screens. I tried to drop it down from the 1440 dpi to the 720 dpi and I don't get enough opacity. Tried going the CYMK, KCMY, RGB, Grayscale routes, nothing seems to give me just a nice solid line that doesn't wind up looking like the Valdez Oil Spill. I did try using the Power RipX ScreenPrint, but on really large Black (opaque) areas, I get lines, and any fine print stuff gets dots around the edges. I print out only from Photoshop CS3. If anyone has a magic setting combination - that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for any help you can give!
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Yes, I do have the most recent drivers set up for running prints through the Epson. The "Inkjet Transparencies" was the main setting that I keep trying to use - I have even tried the "Backlit Film" as well. I even took out the BRAND SPANKIN new ink cartridge (Epson only) and replaced it with another one - just in case if that may have been the problem.

And yes, our last printer was an Epson 3000 as well.
 

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Well give him a call when you think he's awake! Describe the problem and see if he has a solution, whether it's you tweaking something or biting the bullet and shipping it back to him for repair. I'd bet my biscuits it's an issue with the mechanics of the printer itself, because it sounds like you've exhausted every other possibility. These things are old, they can have problems. Give him a call and post back with what he says, I wanna know if it gets resolved.
Yes, thanks Brent - I sent him a long descriptive email in regards to the problem - the owner spoke with him originally - he tried walking him through a quite a few things with the old printer to try to resolve some probs and it sounded like he knew his stuff. When we got the refurbed printer it came with some sample prints (color photos, etc.) but that don't mean a hill of beans in this industry - I need some good clean film brother!! LOL Will keep you posted. Thanks again!
 

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Have you tried different film? I recently got dome waterprof film for my 4800, but it works excellent in the 3000. Black, but not overly thick and it wont run or smudge.
No we haven't - the reason mainly is because we have been using the same film for years and we have not had probs with it... I am willing to try anything at this point tho.
 

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Have you tried different film? I recently got dome waterprof film for my 4800, but it works excellent in the 3000. Black, but not overly thick and it wont run or smudge.
I rec'd an email from the guy who sold us the refurbed unit and coincidentally he suggested the same thing - the only problem is, the boss man is saying that that particular film is twice as expensive as the film we are currently using - my question to you is: Were you using another type of film (possibly the Ulano USA "C" DIJF4356CM-100 ?) is it a "Dye Inkjet Film"? and did you experience smudging (Meaning after letting it dry even overnight, it rubs off VERY easily - winds up on the screens too! OH BOY LOL) I am also wanting him to look into us possibly getting just 1 or 2 sheets from the manufacturer just to test it before we spend all that money on something that will not fix the problem. Somewhere I had heard that Epson stopped making "Dye" type of inks a few years back and this is actually a different type of ink now... And lastly, what is the manaufacturer/part number of the waterproof film you are recommending? Thanks so much for your time ;)
 

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One thing I would like to find out from you before I go and buy this new type of film is find out what settings you have on your Epson 3000 before you print - can you copy and paste me your print summary out of your dialog box? I am very interested to see if if we are using similar settings - there are so many variables, with not only the media type, but KCMY, Grayscale, Saturation, contrast, etc. by going to your 2nd print dialog box, the Print Summary option is at the bottom of the 3 set of drop down boxes - I am mainly interested in what you have selected for "Printer Features" this describes the Printer settings as well as your output settings.... that would be awesome -mainly because I have been messing with that all morning and I am seeing that I have certain controls over the ink etc... Thanks!
 

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I'll save you some headaches.... just print to photo glossy film and leave everything else alone. Hit print. Done.
Hmmmm... There are tons of options for printing out like:
Automatic Glossy Film (Just tried that, it printed out Gray)
Automatic Premium Photo Paper
TONS of DPI settings as a prefix to the above, however, I do not see any options that actually say "photo glossy film" how far down the list is that on yours? Thanks again!
 

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Ridgely, thanks so much - it does say PAPER in there I see(Not film, as your previous post said)... it's funny how different the dialog boxes are in between windows and a mac - the mac is much more cumbersome - I just did a test print and it isn't quite as opaque as we have had in the past - do your printouts look totally black (opaque) on your light table? This is the best I have seen so far and no smudging.
 

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On the 3000 I cant see ANY LIGHT. Blackest I ever printed on any film.
No luck here - I have tried so many different combos including a ton of the default setting that were showing like yours or similar to yours - everything is just like a light to dark gray - I need someone who is using a MAC and an Epson 3000 - and find out what settings they are using.

A couple of quick questions also - do you start with a 300 dpi blank page in Photoshop and Grayscale? Just curious - thanks again.:)
 

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You can do that. I usually do my designs in rgb, then separate to channels. You can take the color picker and hover over an area on the image and look at the info tab, that will show you the black levels for any given pixel area. Make sure the area is 100% k. Can you print black from any document to plain paper?
Yes I can... I just can't beleive there isn't anyone on this forum who is working on a Mac and has an Epson Stylus 3000 - If I could find someone who has this, they can simply give me "THE" recipe here - still have crappy prints coming out - sheesh! LOL
 

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Yeah, when I got hired here a year ago they showed me how to feel the film for the rough side up, so I actually got used to doing it that way, then I eventually saw the note on the 1 rounded corner, so that is not the problem - great question tho.... This whole thing is just so weird... I consider myself almost a "Master OF The Universe" when it comes to computers... learned animation, 3D, pc assembly, network configurations, audio recording, graphic design, programming and a ton of other things through the years -, but I am definitely baffled by this thing. IMHO, my best guess is it's the printer. However, my true dream in life today is to meet someone in this forum that has an Epson 3000 who is on a Mac - I am not much of a Mac guy myself, but they have one here at the office that I am forced to work on LOL.

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