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Enlarging from a business card

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I am trying to do a job from a business card. When I enlarge it the lines are real jagged. Try to sharpen them but buy the time I get a sharp line the design looks like crap. I own Adobe CS. After the money I paid I would think this program would allow me to do anything. I am a great printer but can't do great work if the artwork isn't. I am not an artist. Any ideas guys and gals?
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It takes time to learn to duplicate artwork, maybe you can team up with a local artist that can help you with that. Try google search.. vector art services. Also I'm sure the folks on here might even offer you that service as well.
You will have to redraw the artwork, it's near impossible to enlarge biz card art to printable size, I use Eric @ the vector doctor, super affordable and very fast turn around, I'd bet you have already wasted more time than the amount he charges you is worth
From business cards we normally just redraw them. You will have a hard time scanning and converting something that small.

It amazes me that our customers come in after having paid for artwork not to have the original files. Oh well, that's why we get the big bucks!
"Magicians" are not standard equipment with any software program.....But after a few years you will get better....
Spending big loot on any software doesn't guarantee that it should or can do anything. All applications have limitations but most sotware applications are capable of doing far more than the average user will ever have call for in life, and even amongst the "professionals". User inexperience is often construed as software shortcoming.

This might help:

Clean up lo-rez Bitmap images in Photoshop

Search "cleaning up bad art" or such. There are other sources and some specifically addressing screen printing. And there are routines included in some applications like Quikseps that "automate" the process to varying success with both monochrome and color images.
Pm me I can show you how to make it work for you and teach you how to either clean it up or vectorize it.
"Magicians" are not standard equipment with any software program.....But after a few years you will get better....
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Photoshop is the best thi.v zi.ce slice bread, it can do everything. Tnere is a.plugin from or called genui.e fractials, i know it is speeled wrong. But anyway this thing enlarges images with out any issues. WHEN i vet home I will send you the link.

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It amazes me that our customers come in after having paid for artwork not to have the original files. Oh well, that's why we get the big bucks!
You must not be a print shop that keeps ownership of any artwork they create and refuse to share originals with the customer so you force them to stay with you until they finally get fed up with your prices and bring a business card to a competitor.

Then you get into that grey area of legality over whether or not you can even take the job. There was another thread I started about this, the consensus was basically if the customer doesn't tell, you don't ask. If they say "this other guy owns my art and that's why I don't have it" then you might want to think twice.
It amazes me that our customers come in after having paid for artwork not to have the original files
It's not always the customers fault. Some unscrupulous printers hold them as ransom for repeat business. I usually don't think to offer them to the customer unless they ask.

I was shocked this week when I received artwork in for a custom job. Came with illustrator files complete with separations! Wow. I told her this was a once in a lifetime happening.
Personally if I design something for someone and I charge them, I will give them a hard copy or digital multiple format file of the graphic at no charge. I'll even e-mail it to someone else at their request. No charge. But I'm not going to give them the films nor a copy of the separations in the native software and definitely not the screens. They can pay for them but they're not free. And yes, I too am curious at not necessarily the average customer, but particularly groups and organizations and businesses who don't have decent copies of their logo/graphics. Some do they just don't know where it is, who to ask for it (try the marketing department) or they don't want to take the time to look for it because they think all you have to do is snap your fingers to spin hay into gold. Bring me crap that I have to work to make useable and I'm probably going to charge you.
Even just ten years ago, it used to be a lot more standard for the print house to retain ownership of a design. As I said in another thread, this makes a lot more sense on, say, t-shirt artwork that the owner could use on mugs, mousepads, etc, for their own benefit. Keeping a company's logo hostage always struck me as a little evil, but it used to be more common not to get it.
Even just ten years ago, it used to be a lot more standard for the print house to retain ownership of a design. As I said in another thread, this makes a lot more sense on, say, t-shirt artwork that the owner could use on mugs, mousepads, etc, for their own benefit. Keeping a company's logo hostage always struck me as a little evil, but it used to be more common not to get it.
I'm not clear on the "keeping a company's logo hostage".
If you create a work for someone what they are paying for is the image. You're under no obligation to provide them with anything else unless it's agreed upon by you both.There are useage terms that can be negotiated and other aspects. As creator, you have copyright until you transfer that right to them and you're not obligated to do that and if you do you can negotiate a price for that too. A number of artists don't go beyond getting paid an amount and done for various reasons.

Do a sitting at a photography studio. You pay for a photo/package. You get the photos--that's what you pay for. You can't legally copy the photos and distribute them or use them for other purposes without the studio's permission. Ask for the negatives (or orginal digital files) and you won't get them. And definitely not free if at all. Ask them to forward a copy to another photographer to use in another project. They won't (may but don't have to).

Do a complex t-shirt graphic for a customer. They order shirts. They pay for the shirts, set up and say $50 for the art charge. They call in a month and want you to send the Photoshop sep files or the separated films or the screens to another printer. Do you do it? Why or why not?

Where's the "holding hostage" aspect?
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Where's the "holding hostage" aspect?
If you hold the rights to a customer's logo, and your prices skyrocket, whether due to legitimate increase in cost of business, or just because you want to make more money, and they have no option to go someplace with a better price, I'd say that qualifies as holding a logo hostage. Maybe you've never done something like that. Other people have. Again, with a custom t-shirt design there's a lot more potential profit for you to make on your own, thus keeping the rights makes more sense. What are you going to do with a Maggie's Muffins' logo, other than to force the customer to keep coming to you even if your prices become non-competitive? You could build up a business of 25-50 companies and then just keep raising your prices and not even have to worry about getting new customers... until they finally get fed up and take a copy of the logo to someone else.
i don't care what type of plugin you have. there is no way you can scan in an image that is let's say at the most 1/2" big and blow it up to a foot wide size and have the pixelation magically disappear.
Tim, I disagree. I just took a 72DPI image at 6" wide by 3" tall. Enhanced to 250 DPI at 12"wide x 9" tall. Printed perfectly. http://www.t-shirtforums.com/show-your-stuff-screen-printing-print-job-examples/t182598.html. Is the skull image. The picture is poor quality from iPhone.
I just did one from a biz card today. Using a canon 870 all in one the scanning software let me add correction to the image to make it nice and smooth without a lot of distortion.

From there I used the bezier tool in corel to draw each element of the logo. It was 2 circles, a scale of justice and a hand holding a flame in a shield with wording inside the larger circle. There were 2 stars and corel has a star shape tool. It took about 10 mins of work to do this.

I have done more complicated ones in the past but once you break down the image into its basic elements you can move pretty quickly through it.
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