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all the enviroline chemicals are drain and enviroment safe...they are "Natures Cleaner" .....all work just as good as the counterparts chemicals.....that arent enviromentally friendly.

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I have only ever used the Enviroline range, right from the start. Have never had any problems with any of the chemicals doing their job and some of them smell pretty good!

(Although, of course, I don't recommend or condone that you start smelling your cleanup chemicals) ;)

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eviroline sounds good but Im in Australia and it might not be cost effective.
The only thing I found in Australia is called American Eagle haze remover HR1000
"A biodegradable , extremely low odour paste which will remove stains and be environmentally friendly"

any one know about this?
 

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eviroline sounds good but Im in Australia and it might not be cost effective.
The only thing I found in Australia is called American Eagle haze remover HR1000
"A biodegradable , extremely low odour paste which will remove stains and be environmentally friendly"

any one know about this?
Mine's a liquid, rather than paste. Means I can spray it on and it gets all over the mesh nicely after a little scrub with suitable brush.

Your's sounds great, though - why not ask the manufacturer/distributor for a sample?

I think franmar also do a line - I hear good stuff about their products - maybe they are more readily available in Oz?

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Mine's a liquid, rather than paste. Means I can spray it on and it gets all over the mesh nicely after a little scrub with suitable brush.
I learned the hard way to be VERY carefull with spray...LOL.

Started having the occasional screen pop. Realized I was getting overspray on the adhesive and it was loosening.

Got a free sample of paste which I found I like so I actually use both.
 

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Excellent hint--some frame adhesives are better than others as far as chemical resistance goes.

Another question would be appropriate here--are you dealing with ink haze or emulsion haze?

And actually, the ages old standard caustic dehazer lye, or sodium hydroxide, is environmentally friendly and drain-safe--in fact, you use it for unclogging your drains.
If you're Norwegian, you use it for cooking fish--not that I recommend it. ;)
(and FYI, if you want to try lutefisk, be forewarned that there are 'industrial' and 'food grade' versions of lye--choose appropriately)
 

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Excellent hint--some frame adhesives are better than others as far as chemical resistance goes.

Another question would be appropriate here--are you dealing with ink haze or emulsion haze?

And actually, the ages old standard caustic dehazer lye, or sodium hydroxide, is environmentally friendly and drain-safe--in fact, you use it for unclogging your drains.
If you're Norwegian, you use it for cooking fish--not that I recommend it. ;)
(and FYI, if you want to try lutefisk, be forewarned that there are 'industrial' and 'food grade' versions of lye--choose appropriately)
The haze is from water based ink. (permaset)
 

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The haze is from water based ink. (permaset)
I do nearly exclusively plastisol production, and what walk-away haze removers can do for ink ghosts pale in comparison to what you can do with a more effective ink degradent--ironically, this seems to be one of the major problems--people struggle to find an eco-friendly chemical, but then they need another chemical to clean up the mess the last one left.

Although it will be hard on your screens, and *is* toxic, especially so at high concentrations, caustic HR may be the only effective cleaner available, although the caustic we use is classified in it's MSDS as biodegradable--your safety and wastewater discharge may become issues. (Be very careful if you have a septic system)

I was hoping someone would chime in with a good low-VOC WB ink cleaner that will work better than what you're using, but it could still happen...
 
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