I just had to make this post. I've got a speed treater from equipmentzone that is going on 5yrs old. I was about to refill the canister and noticed all these empty pretreat containers on the floor. I could probably build a raft and sail it to Cuba with the amount of empty jugs of pretreat that I've thrown away over the years. This machine has really stood the test of time. Wish there were more products like this on the market. Moreover, I wish there were more products manufactured here in the US of A. You get what you pay for folks.