I do alot of simprocess work for a very demanding clientele. I will tell you this, you can use one of the automated programs, but you won't get near the quality as you would by having someone do it by hand. A computer can only do so much, and at the end of the day, knowing how inks mix on press and what order they should be printed in, how mesh types effect how the jobs run, etc. is better left to a human.
I have preached this for a long time, but find a good seps artist. There are dozens of freelancers that do nothing but sep simprocess jobs all day. CHARGE your customers for the seps, $25 per color is normally what we charge and pay a pro to do them. If for some reason the job isn't running right, you can pick up the phone, call them and tell them what the job is doing and they can help you solve the problem....you can't get that kind of help from a computer. All the money you pay a seps artist you will make back in quality of work and speed of printing. $.02 from a guy that prints alot of simprocess jobs.
Um..No, I hate to break the quickseps and fast films bubble, but the best sep guys in the industry do not use automatic sep programs and then tweak them. I've stood over the shoulder and watched one of the best in this business do them for me.You can't seriously believe that freelancers aren't using sep programs in their work and then tweaking/adjusting them.
I'm an artist/screenprinter and I make use of modern technology. Like any other tool, you use it to your advantage and to get the best results. But, being a tool, I'm using it in conjunction with a good eye and manually tweaking.
I get that, and John's obviously curious question is what is necessary to get him there. Time he get's to his 100th question about this paticular topic, he will be giving us answers about it.I understand where you are coming from, I guess my point is, I have never seen a seps program give great art the respect it deserves. A talented artist with knowledge of how to sep takes great care in reproducing the art that you spent your energy and time to produce. They generally respect your art enough to give good printers the tools necessary to reproduce your hard work and talent onto the garment.
i completely agree!I understand where you are coming from, I guess my point is, I have never seen a seps program give great art the respect it deserves. A talented artist with knowledge of how to sep takes great care in reproducing the art that you spent your energy and time to produce. They generally respect your art enough to give good printers the tools necessary to reproduce your hard work and talent onto the garment.
Um..No, I hate to break the quickseps and fast films bubble, but the best sep guys in the industry do not use automatic sep programs and then tweak them. I've stood over the shoulder and watched one of the best in this business do them for me.
There is an experience level that only comes from working in demanding shops were color correct simprocess and process jobs are the standard. Seek those artists out and then you can really tell the difference between auto seps and "The Real Deal". For 99% of the industry I think quick seps and fast films and all the rest work fine....I've tried them all, and none gave me even remotely close to what I consider a quality imprint. Just my experience.
Add up the time it takes to tweak a sep, or when you find something isn't working when printing and you have to fix it, meanwhile my press is running 700 shirts an hour and making money. If you can send the seps out and almost be guaranteed a perfect sep everytime how much money do you really save by doing it yourself? How much trial and error is there involved in learning how to tweak, how many screens have to be reburned, jobs have to be resetup? And meanwhile my press is still running 700/hr. As I said, find a good seps guy, and charge your customers to sep their sim process jobs...that way, you ALWAYS break even or make money off the seps,and you are almost always guaranteed a excellent print.
Even if you decide to go with someone who uses some sort of automation for their seps, I would still let them do the tweaking while you do whats profitable in a screen printing shop......screen printing.
Just another way to look at things is all.
I've wasted a lot of time before I got, at least to a degree, a handle on index seps. I'm on the road to having a handle on half tones in screen print. It seems natural to me that Sim. Proc. having aspects of the two should be something to pursue next. I'm in it for the long haul, I love this work and have a lifetime in one form of graphics or another (used to earn my allowance doing cut and paste in the family typesetting shop). Rubylith, Letraset, strip printers, hot wax machines, stat cameras, bluelines are all things of the past. The first screen print I did had a hand cut paper stencil applied to the screen with oil based paint. Since then I've done exploded isometric projections of clocks in AutoCad and any of a number of other digital forms of composition. So while I'm in the process of learning the finer points of screen printing I'm no dilettante. Having said that I doubt that I ever achieve the level of proficiency CnClark has worked with on the top end of the industry. Denise, I appreciate your confidence in my finding my way to respectable simulated process separations using Quickseps, when I can afford it I most certainly will invest in that software. I truly hope that when the inevitable technical snags arise I can count on some guidance from you guys in making progress with that skill set. Starchild, I appreciate the links, it'll give me a good foundation before I start burning film and screens. I look at it as just one more in a series of graphic adventures.In the hands of an exp. artist they can be a great tool. In the hands of someone with no experience, they can be a big time waste.
Obviously with 30 years experience knowing what to tweak and what will actually work on press is like second nature for you....it's not for someone asking the type of questions the OP was. In his case, I suggested to send them out, and I feel comfortable standing by the recommendation because I think his results will be far better by sending them out than with doing them through a seps program.
Arguing...no, but discussing, absolutely. I don't take opinions contrary to mine as a personal affront. The only way to grow is to risk being wrong. If the road to perdition is paved with good intentions, then the road to heaven is paved with discarded misconceptions.But that is just my opinion....no use arguing over opinions.