[Hogwild16]

Ok, so after a year of embroidery, i don't dare claim to know much. However, I'm gaining an understanding. Now...

I'm sending many designs off to get digitized for 25-30 dollars vs spending 2-3 hours doing it myself. However, I'm running into a few that just aren't making sense. I have a design right now that is a left chest and is over 17,000 stitches. This stitches for crap on poly golf shirts! I'm trying to re-digitize it on Wilcom e3 and while I have it looking very similar with 12k stitches, I suck at angels/jumps and stitch order...
I sent the logo to another digitizer that has done some good work for me and it came back with over 17k stitches again (note the first file I was working with was from 2010)...
My question is, if my digitizers are working on ES-65 which is 10yr old software, are they able to do what I can do with E3 (3yr old software)? Or what anyone else can do for that matter? Meaning, am I kidding myself by thinking I can make this design cleanly for 12k stitches vs the older software bulking the design up?
I know you might need more details for a great answer, but I figured i would start here... I'm very confused and i don't want to keep pumping money or time into something that may not be possible.

Thank you!

 

[digidana]

Ok, so after a year of embroidery, i don't dare claim to know much. However, I'm gaining an understanding. Now...

I'm sending many designs off to get digitized for 25-30 dollars vs spending 2-3 hours doing it myself. However, I'm running into a few that just aren't making sense. I have a design right now that is a left chest and is over 17,000 stitches. This stitches for crap on poly golf shirts! I'm trying to re-digitize it on Wilcom e3 and while I have it looking very similar with 12k stitches, I suck at angels/jumps and stitch order...
I sent the logo to another digitizer that has done some good work for me and it came back with over 17k stitches again (note the first file I was working with was from 2010)...
My question is, if my digitizers are working on ES-65 which is 10yr old software, are they able to do what I can do with E3 (3yr old software)? Or what anyone else can do for that matter? Meaning, am I kidding myself by thinking I can make this design cleanly for 12k stitches vs the older software bulking the design up?
I know you might need more details for a great answer, but I figured i would start here... I'm very confused and i don't want to keep pumping money or time into something that may not be possible.

i used the same software for 20 years...bought it in 1996. I switched to wilcom last year. my first software was VERY basic compared to e3, BUT the basics of digitizing in general are always the same. wilcom just has more tools to make some things easier or faster. honestly, i don't use most of the wilcom tools. i still digitize a lot like i did with the basic software as far as pathing and actually creating the stitches. i think the process of digitizing is more like a mindset of thinking of what the machine will do and how it will affect the garment. wilcom, or ES-65, is just the tool. i really believe that the actual software has very little to do with the quality of the design.

its kind of like if you have a 2x4" piece of wood and you want to cut it. you could use a chop saw, circular saw, hand saw, jig saw, etc. any way you do it, you should end up with the same product. 2 pieces of wood instead of one.

that said...a lower stitch count shouldn't be the top priority. a design that looks and stitches great should be the 'end game'. to create a design that looks and stitches great, it should already have the minimum number of stitches.

if you'd like to send me the emb file i'd be happy to take a look at it for you. no charge.

 

[LTPEMB]

Like the above person said its not really about the version of software that produces a good or bad result... its about the artist using the software...

The reason being is that a quality end result when put into practice is more about the knowledge of how to use what parts and when...

 

[Hogwild16]

Thank you both for your replies. That makes sense.

 

[brenden]

Agreed with the comments above.

I was Product Manager at Wilcom for nearly 10 years and version to version the stitch engine basically doesn't change. The core of Wilcom quality has been there from day one.

New tools, effects and benefits roll out in each release though making upgrading always worth while.

The #1 cause of a bad embroidery designs is the digitizer. Just ensure when you do outsource that you are using a company with legal software. Cracked software has been known to have issues.