different printing technologies

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Fatal Mistakes

Discussion Starter · Nov 3, 2008

Hi, our group was looking for other printing style, we've tried printing through silkscreen(emboss, textile, opaque, wetlook), what kind of printing tech. does the DICKIES and Lee Pipes are using?

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Screen Art

· #2 · Nov 3, 2008

Fatal Mistakes said:
Hi, our group was looking for other printing style, we've tried printing through silkscreen(emboss, textile, opaque, wetlook), what kind of printing tech. does the DICKIES and Lee Pipes are using?

Usually for large companies such as dickies, lee and etc...uses PLASTISOL inks... why? ....using plastisol you will not have problem with the drying time because you cannot use the normal hair dryer... Plastisol inks has also good adhesion to the fabric.but Plastisols are costly than the normal water based inks.

But there are also many other types of silkscreen that used waterbased inks such as flocking transfer, foil transfers, emboss and etc.

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Fatal Mistakes

Discussion Starter · #3 · Nov 3, 2008

thanks, what's the difference between the heat transfer tech. and the flock transfer. do we have to use silkscreen for plastisol?

ccc888

· #4 · Dec 5, 2008

Yup you can you use silkscreen for plastisol...but you will need something to dry it at a specific temperature.

cjelle

· #5 · Dec 17, 2008

so, using plastisol inks, it doesn't dry as fast as compared with other waterbased inks?

ccc888

· #6 · Dec 18, 2008

cjelle said:
so, using plastisol inks, it doesn't dry as fast as compared with other waterbased inks?[/quot

No, it is quicker. If you have the proper equiptment. A flashcure and a dryer. Some use only a flashcure if you are on a budget for small business.

Waterbase ink can be air dried...This is not so with plastisol..you need a flashcure to make the plastic gel dry...exposing it to a certein temperature (flashcuring)...this is good when you are doing multi color shirt because you can partially dry it up, put another color...then repeat...When all of the other color is in place you subject the shirt to a higher temperature again (curing Temp)..Make sure of this, so that your print will no come off when you wash it...

Also, you can see shirt that have stickers on it "Do Not Iron Print". Tendency this are plastisol printed shirts..If you iron it the same temperature as the curing temp..you will make the ink wet again...

You can make a four color shirt in 10-20 min...And you can wear it already...Given you properly cure it.

You can let the plastisol on your screen the whole day and it will not dry up or clog it.

Plastisol makes a rubbery feel while waterbase is soft to the touch.

Try google and type how to use plastisol ink...

I still prefer waterbase inks tough because it is cheaper...Platisol inks are a bit expensive and you need electrical equiptment to dry it. This is very good if you are a big company.

Hope this helps

chard

· #7 · Dec 18, 2008

where can you get plastisol inks here in the philippines?

joel_h

· #8 · Dec 18, 2008

try this nos. located at recto
245-0122, 245-0135

ccc888

· #9 · Dec 19, 2008

Tulco and JJ Virgo...even Pioneer I think sells plastisol ink....There is a store that specializes with plastisol inks along Araneta Ave...close to Tulco's side. Sorry I forgot the name and address but they are a bit expensive...maybe the cater big printing companies...

Fatal Mistakes

Discussion Starter · #10 · Apr 3, 2009

thanks for your responses guys, inow i'm looking for plastisol printing service here in the Philippines. thanks again

klemmprinting

· #11 · Jun 25, 2010

I strongly suggest to you not to use plastisol ink. It is TOXIC! You can have CANCER from Plastisol ink. I am not kidding.....

PLASTISOL is made up of polyvinyl chloride resin and PHTHALATE Plasticizer. Now, during curing of the printed fabrics, there are fumes.... and that fumes is toxic.

You better shift to water-based inks. You can ask TULCO about this information. And good thing is....their inks are environment-friendly....they comply to the European standard and American standard.

Nobody will you about the bad side of plastisol, only TULCO does....

"KNOW first what's inside, before you decide"

God bless.

penggul

· #12 · Jun 25, 2010

klemmprinting said:
I strongly suggest to you not to use plastisol ink. It is TOXIC! You can have CANCER from Plastisol ink. I am not kidding.....

PLASTISOL is made up of polyvinyl chloride resin and PHTHALATE Plasticizer. Now, during curing of the printed fabrics, there are fumes.... and that fumes is toxic.

You better shift to water-based inks. You can ask TULCO about this information. And good thing is....their inks are environment-friendly....they comply to the European standard and American standard.

Nobody will you about the bad side of plastisol, only TULCO does....

"KNOW first what's inside, before you decide"

God bless.

not agree of this sir most of the plastisol are phalatelle free

check the site

Plastisol Inks for Textile Screen Printing - LancerGroup.com

eto pa sir

http://www.lancergroup.com/lancer/ink_catalog/pvc_free/catalog8.html

chard

· #13 · Jun 25, 2010

sir ask tulco?or ask you?hindi ba tulco din binebenta nyo sir?

squidheads

· #14 · Jun 25, 2010

you can buy plastisol inks from Union Inks and Graphics Phils., Inc
tel # 820 3210, 820 5405, 820 0638, 826 0131

jsf

· #15 · Jun 25, 2010

klemmprinting said:
I strongly suggest to you not to use plastisol ink. It is TOXIC! You can have CANCER from Plastisol ink. I am not kidding.....

PLASTISOL is made up of polyvinyl chloride resin and PHTHALATE Plasticizer. Now, during curing of the printed fabrics, there are fumes.... and that fumes is toxic.

You better shift to water-based inks. You can ask TULCO about this information. And good thing is....their inks are environment-friendly....they comply to the European standard and American standard.

Nobody will you about the bad side of plastisol, only TULCO does....

"KNOW first what's inside, before you decide"

God bless.

Ok. So yun plastisol nyo pala ay PHTHALATE Plasticizer free...., or you have no such products?

God Bless din!

kimco

· #16 · Jul 29, 2010

jsf said:
Ok. So yun plastisol nyo pala ay PHTHALATE Plasticizer free...., or you have no such products?

God Bless din!

I guess what klemmprinting tries to say is that if you are just starting to do screen printing better to have it with water-based inks. Yung mga Phtalate free na Plastisol Ink limited na lang ang effects na kayang gawin, and most of the effects it can do eh kaya na ng water-based inks. Less expensive pa ang water-based inks compared to plastisol.

jsf

· #17 · Jul 29, 2010

kimco said:
I guess what klemmprinting tries to say is that if you are just starting to do screen printing better to have it with water-based inks. Yung mga Phtalate free na Plastisol Ink limited na lang ang effects na kayang gawin, and most of the effects it can do eh kaya na ng water-based inks. Less expensive pa ang water-based inks compared to plastisol.

Sir alam naman po natin na meron difference ang waterbase at plastisol inks... both inks have pros and cons.

Also, I am a waterbase user.

But I disagree with you that plastisol inks have limited effects in printing and waterbase can do the same as plastisols...

Can waterbase do high density printing? (as shown below)

Another fact is that plastisols gives much brighter colors in printing than waterbase inks because as we all know that plastisol normally do not penetrate the fabric and it minimize dye migration.

Plastisol is also being used as a bonding agent or adhesive for foil transfers. And plastisol is also being used as transfers.

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benS

· #18 · Feb 2, 2011

sir jsf anong gamit ninyong application pang designed ang ganda ng mga gaw ninyo...

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