Confused: The best Laser transfer paper for darks

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davelarue

Discussion Starter · Nov 20, 2008

Hello,

The more i read through this forum, the more i get confused. I would like everyone's opinion on which heat press transfer paper (laser) for dark t-shirts is the best (best quality, long lasting, etc)

These are the brands i have heard are good:

- Airwaves Fabric Opaque
- TransferWear Darks

I am from Europe. If Airwaves is the best, then where do i buy it?

Thanks,

Dave

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Lnfortun

· #2 · Nov 20, 2008

Airwaves is very good if you are willing to hand trim and do two step process. I also discovered yesterday that the blue grid opaque can be printed with laser printer using medium weight media setting. Be aware though that it tends to shrink going through the fuser. So when using a vinyl cutter with optic registration the cutter will lose its accuracy.

You can purchase Airwaves Opaque from AirWaves. It is sold in one size which is 11X17. Not sure in EU.

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davelarue

Discussion Starter · #3 · Nov 20, 2008

Lnfortun said:
Airwaves is very good if you are willing to hand trim and do two step process. I also discovered yesterday that the blue grid opaque can be printed with laser printer using medium weight media setting. Be aware though that it tends to shrink going through the fuser. So when using a vinyl cutter with optic registration the cutter will lose its accuracy.

You can purchase Airwaves Opaque from AirWaves. It is sold in one size which is 11X17. Not sure in EU.

Excellent! Could you give me a direct link to the papers i need. Their website is also really confusing hehe.
So, i need Airwaves Opaque 11x17.
My printer (work) is a Konica Minolta Bizhub C353.

Thanks a lot.

Dave

davelarue

Discussion Starter · #4 · Nov 20, 2008

Also, when you say two step (i don't mind doing that) does Airwaves sell a package or do i have to buy seperate stuff?
On their website i can only find the 'one step' papers....
D

Lnfortun

· #5 · Nov 21, 2008

Here is the link: Air Waves Inc. - FABRIC OPAQUE 11X17

It costs 43.75USD/25 sheets.

Minimum international order is 100USD.

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davelarue

Discussion Starter · #6 · Nov 24, 2008

How about IronAll vs. TransferWear ?
TransferWear is cheaper, but is IronAll better?

thanhpham

· #7 · Nov 24, 2008

Lnfortun said:
Here is the link: Air Waves Inc. - FABRIC OPAQUE 11X17

It costs 43.75USD/25 sheets.

Minimum international order is 100USD.

How compare with WOW7.1?

Lnfortun

· #8 · Nov 25, 2008 (Edited)

thanhpham said:
How compare with WOW7.1?

Wow 7.1 is a multi step self weeding opaque while Airwaves opaque is made of fabric that needs to be hand trim. Wow7.1 cost approx. $5.00 per pair after the initial purchase of approx. $6.00 a pair. The extra $1.00 ($32.00 total) accounts for the soft silicon sheet that comes with the kit. The Wow7.1 I tried has cracked and peeled after small number of wash and dry cycles.

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Lnfortun

· #9 · Nov 25, 2008

Davelarue,

Your inbox is full. You need to delete some of the excess email in your inbox if you want to receive reply to your email.

davelarue

Discussion Starter · #10 · Nov 25, 2008

Hi, weird, i have 2/5 allowed messages. There should be space for more messages. Send me an email at davidreime (at) gmail (dot) com

Girlzndollz

· #11 · Nov 25, 2008

Lnfortun said:
Airwaves is very good if you are willing to hand trim and do two step process. I also discovered yesterday that the blue grid opaque can be printed with laser printer using medium weight media setting. Be aware though that it tends to shrink going through the fuser. So when using a vinyl cutter with optic registration the cutter will lose its accuracy.

You can purchase Airwaves Opaque from AirWaves. It is sold in one size which is 11X17. Not sure in EU.

Thank you for another great laser thread, Luis.

I am sure I will be linking to this one, too, as the question on dark laser papers comes up quite a bit lately.

Girlzndollz

· #12 · Nov 25, 2008

davelarue said:
Hi, weird, i have 2/5 allowed messages. There should be space for more messages. Send me an email at davidreime (at) gmail (dot) com

I believe the max includes what is in the inbox *and* the outbox for a total of 5.

If you have 3 outgoing, then it does work that way. It's been a while, so I am trying to remember how it worked for me. At this point, I get 20,000.

Lol... please never let me use that up!

davelarue

Discussion Starter · #13 · Nov 25, 2008

this is the situation in my messages folder:
'You have 0 messages stored, of a total 5 allowed'

If nothing is coming through now, then its not my fault

proworlded

· #14 · Nov 25, 2008 (Edited by Moderator)

We have had excellent results with the AirWaves 585 laser paper for darks

Lnfortun

· #15 · Nov 25, 2008

proworlded said:
We have had excellent results with the AirWaves 585 laser paper for darks

585 is vinyl and 595 is fabric. Two different breed.

proworlded

· #16 · Nov 25, 2008

Not sure waht you mean by vinyl. The 585 is a transfer paper for use on dark materials. Maybe you are calling the white film that you separate from the paper a vinyl? The 595 is an opaque backing that is applied to the garment and then a transfer is applied to that backing.

ashamutt

· #17 · Jan 17, 2009

Lnfortun said:
Airwaves is very good if you are willing to hand trim and do two step process. I also discovered yesterday that the blue grid opaque can be printed with laser printer using medium weight media setting. Be aware though that it tends to shrink going through the fuser. So when using a vinyl cutter with optic registration the cutter will lose its accuracy.

You can purchase Airwaves Opaque from AirWaves. It is sold in one size which is 11X17. Not sure in EU.

Hey Luis!!!

Well, My new OKI is AWESOME!!!!!
I LOVE IT!!!!!!...& hubby loves it too!!!!
(so far!lol!)

And , so far, I really like the Magicut software....I actually cut some ugly blue "practice" vinyl last night!
...now, I am on the path to "contour-cutting"!!!..I really think that I am going to be able to do this!!!!

,,,,here is my question(sorry for the ramble).....

Have you solved the "shrinkage" problem w/ the Blue grid paper?
And if so, what is the answer?

(make the image a tad smaller? before making the "contour-cut-lines" & sending to the cutter
???)

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Lnfortun

· #18 · Jan 17, 2009

ashamutt said:
Hey Luis!!!

Well, My new OKI is AWESOME!!!!!
I LOVE IT!!!!!!...& hubby loves it too!!!!
(so far!lol!)

And , so far, I really like the Magicut software....I actually cut some ugly blue "practice" vinyl last night!
...now, I am on the path to "contour-cutting"!!!..I really think that I am going to be able to do this!!!!

,,,,here is my question(sorry for the ramble).....

Have you solved the "shrinkage" problem w/ the Blue grid paper?
And if so, what is the answer?

(make the image a tad smaller? before making the "contour-cut-lines" & sending to the cutter
???)

Laser fuser as we know is very hot. Passing a plastic like material will tend to shrink. Therefore the relation between the image and the registration marks will shift. I made some compensation by offsetting the cutline quiet a bit. I also made the line wide for the circluar border around the design.

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vctradingcubao

· #19 · Jan 17, 2009

davelarue said:
..I am from Europe.

Hi Dave! Kinda late reply here, but if you are from Europe, you might want to try the Forever Laser Dark.

link here: Forever Digital Transfer Applications Technology

peaches2912

· #20 · Jan 19, 2009

Hi,
I have been purchasing my paper from QLT. I have tried paper from other sites but this seems to work best for me. I order the opaque for dark shirts. I am not sure if they deliver out of the US, but they have great paper. www.qlt.com. They are having a sale right now. I got 600 sheets for 300.00. You need a teflon sheet for the paper. I have been using this paper for over 2 years.

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