COMPLETING the Circle of Custom Branding - Inner Collar Sizing + Logo Tags
WUZZZUPPPPPP!? 
Our manufacturers (Bella, SanMar, Pennant, Holloway, etc.) pre-label their apparel with their own logos and labeling, which can be avoided partially by only selecting tear-away tags, but this limits our selection diversity and still doesn't promote the comprehensive branding vision we have for our growing company.
We've been using the lettering solvent based chemical from heatpressnation, but had a couple questions for the pros here (and yes I did some searching on the forum so I wasn't being totally clueless and redundant - I'll be heading over to Barber & Co. to check out their solutions soon...
1) For a small but speedily growing active wear brand, what's the best way to remove and replace inner collar labels with our own logos, branding, and font style...to remain consistent on all branding and product presentation for a we'll rounded customer experience? Basically, what's the best chemical AND process in the best bulk/volume discount format to easily dissolve manufacturers' labels and swap for our own? (any best practices or hints/tips, like tweezers or how long to let chemical soak in etc would be great!)
2) What's are the best plastisol label printer referrals you'd all suggest we can turn to for gang sheets or bulk tag sheets of our 2x3 labels with size, style, website, and logo OTHER than Stahl's (never going there again) and FM Expressions, which has missed several shipping promise deadlines on previous 2 large orders for us?
3) Lastly, when using the solvent chemical to dissolve and remove the existing labels from the manufacturers, how long should we wait before then heat-pressing our own labels on, so our fresh labels' pressure-sensitive adhesive isn't eaten away by the existing solvent still soaked into the apparel's fabric?
THANKS SO MUCH everyone!! We're so excited to introduce another exiting level of quality and creativity to the brand we've been having so much fun with
PS: Worse case scenario we can cut our own labels with the Graphtec, and press them on no problem, but it'd be hard to weed those MICROSCOPIC letters, and if we simply "covered over" the labels like Port & Company (SanMar) for example, that'd look weird and generic.
Our manufacturers (Bella, SanMar, Pennant, Holloway, etc.) pre-label their apparel with their own logos and labeling, which can be avoided partially by only selecting tear-away tags, but this limits our selection diversity and still doesn't promote the comprehensive branding vision we have for our growing company.
We've been using the lettering solvent based chemical from heatpressnation, but had a couple questions for the pros here (and yes I did some searching on the forum so I wasn't being totally clueless and redundant - I'll be heading over to Barber & Co. to check out their solutions soon...
1) For a small but speedily growing active wear brand, what's the best way to remove and replace inner collar labels with our own logos, branding, and font style...to remain consistent on all branding and product presentation for a we'll rounded customer experience? Basically, what's the best chemical AND process in the best bulk/volume discount format to easily dissolve manufacturers' labels and swap for our own? (any best practices or hints/tips, like tweezers or how long to let chemical soak in etc would be great!)
2) What's are the best plastisol label printer referrals you'd all suggest we can turn to for gang sheets or bulk tag sheets of our 2x3 labels with size, style, website, and logo OTHER than Stahl's (never going there again) and FM Expressions, which has missed several shipping promise deadlines on previous 2 large orders for us?
3) Lastly, when using the solvent chemical to dissolve and remove the existing labels from the manufacturers, how long should we wait before then heat-pressing our own labels on, so our fresh labels' pressure-sensitive adhesive isn't eaten away by the existing solvent still soaked into the apparel's fabric?
THANKS SO MUCH everyone!! We're so excited to introduce another exiting level of quality and creativity to the brand we've been having so much fun with
PS: Worse case scenario we can cut our own labels with the Graphtec, and press them on no problem, but it'd be hard to weed those MICROSCOPIC letters, and if we simply "covered over" the labels like Port & Company (SanMar) for example, that'd look weird and generic.
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Reminds me of Lucy on the candy assembly line
There are manual versions for under $1k. The autos start at over $2k.
Of course, regardless of how one does it, the real pain is that one must have multiple versions of the art for different size garments as well as country of origin--which can vary widely even within the same brand of garment.
Thanks guys! I'll look into that
As far as the best chemical to use and a good supplier of pre printed plastisol label art, what are some good suggestions? Thanks!!
As far as the best chemical to use and a good supplier of pre printed plastisol label art, what are some good suggestions? Thanks!!
I wouldn't touch the job of chemically removing printed neck labels with your ten-foot pole Sounds like a mess and time sink, and is surely some nasty stuff.
Hanes Beefy-T is the only brand/style I have ever used that had a printed neck label from the manufacturer. Hanes makes some of the SanMar specific brands/styles, so I guess it is printed the same way on those. I would buy different shirts and not even begin to think twice about it.
I know as a brand and a creator that you want to send you stuff out into the world with your "stamp" on it. But customers could not care less about the neck label--UNLESS it irritates their neck.
I would suggest avoiding the time, expense, and aggravation, and simply attach hangtags with your branding. You can then leave the OEM label for all the legal stuff (it is a real pain to print yourself, and illegal to leave off). On some shirts, you can tear off their branding label and leave the one with the legal info.
Oh, and business cards are a good size for hangtags, and are generally cheaper and easier to obtain.
Sounds like a mess and time sink, and is surely some nasty stuff.Hanes Beefy-T is the only brand/style I have ever used that had a printed neck label from the manufacturer. Hanes makes some of the SanMar specific brands/styles, so I guess it is printed the same way on those. I would buy different shirts and not even begin to think twice about it.
I know as a brand and a creator that you want to send you stuff out into the world with your "stamp" on it. But customers could not care less about the neck label--UNLESS it irritates their neck.
I would suggest avoiding the time, expense, and aggravation, and simply attach hangtags with your branding. You can then leave the OEM label for all the legal stuff (it is a real pain to print yourself, and illegal to leave off). On some shirts, you can tear off their branding label and leave the one with the legal info.
Oh, and business cards are a good size for hangtags, and are generally cheaper and easier to obtain.
Super thankful NoXidI wouldn't touch the job of chemically removing printed neck labels with your ten-foot pole
We've been using it for nearly a year now for this purpose sporadically, and in the first few months of operations we used it daily with tons of success when we had inevitable goof-ups while learning the process and materials, worked like a charm. We never used any protective gloves or anything and we all have sensitive skin, maybe you're talking about something stronger like an industrial type stronger solvent? Here's what we use: VINYL LETTER REMOVER
Hanes Beefy-T is the only brand/style I have ever used that had a printed neck label from the manufacturer. Hanes makes some of the SanMar specific brands/styles, so I guess it is printed the same way on those. I would buy different shirts and not even begin to think twice about it.
OH YEAH, we'll never purchase Hanes or Fruit of the Loom or Gildan etc. etc., they're far from our quality standard and overall vision for the company. Our apparel is on par with Under Armour and Nike, and that's what our client base seek out and expect. The only thing is no matter what provider we go with, 100% of every garment has heat pressed labels on the inside of the neck.
I know as a brand and a creator that you want to send you stuff out into the world with your "stamp" on it. But customers could not care less about the neck label--UNLESS it irritates their neck.
That's so weird, because we've gotten a LOT of feedback from our customers about the various branding on the neck. Our company is an apparel brand by nature and vision, which is where we've always slowly been heading as we develop the business plan and continue to contract with athletes as spokespeople. It would be like paying $40 for an Under Armour shirt, and having it say "Pennant" on the inside, haha, confusing and overall it dilutes the lifestyle branding and presentation of the end-product and we've received a lot of feedback about it.
I would suggest avoiding the time, expense, and aggravation, and simply attach hangtags with your branding. You can then leave the OEM label for all the legal stuff (it is a real pain to print yourself, and illegal to leave off). On some shirts, you can tear off their branding label and leave the one with the legal info.
We've been using some cool hangtags since the beginning, love them, they really do add to the branding. Plus, we get to have our company vision, instagram hashtag, and URL on them. What we have been doing for the last few months is what you suggested, looking for product descriptions with tear-away tags/lables. Easy peasy. We just don't want to limit our collections to only a few choices, when we can be so much more creative and make our athletes and customers happier with a robust selection without limitations; so we need to find a great online plastisol provider of inner-collar press designs
Oh, and business cards are a good size for hangtags, and are generally cheaper and easier to obtain.
That's so crazy, we've also been doing that since the very beginning. It's nice and reassuring to know that we've been following some industry best practices "on accident" from the outset! Thanks for all your advice, that also reminds us, we need to order some more hang tags today!! Have a huge health expo coming up in December, wooo!!! Have a great start to your week
For the country of origin, I read that if a garment originates from multiple countries, we can save the costs of the tags by just stating "Made in the USA of Imported Fabric".Reminds me of Lucy on the candy assembly line
There are manual versions for under $1k. The autos start at over $2k.
Of course, regardless of how one does it, the real pain is that one must have multiple versions of the art for different size garments as well as country of origin--which can vary widely even within the same brand of garment.
This way, if the garment is from 3 countries, we just need 1 tag for that and not 3 different countries, which greatly reduces costs
I think that only applies if the garment is sewn in the USA. The USA made American Apparel shirts are labeled that way.For the country of origin, I read that if a garment originates from multiple countries, we can save the costs of the tags by just stating "Made in the USA of Imported Fabric".
This way, if the garment is from 3 countries, we just need 1 tag for that and not 3 different countries, which greatly reduces costs
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