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can you tie dye a t-shirt AFTER heat pressing w/ vinyl?

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Hey there -

Have a new customer wanting some simple white T-shirts w/ black vinyl...so their youth group can tie-dye after I heat press the vinyl. Can you do that? Will anything bad happen to the vinyl?

Should they tie-dye them first?

Thanks,

Lisa
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Should be fine. The adhesive should be cured. If its not set right it will come off in the wash anyways. I am not sure about if the soda ash pretreat would do anything but it shouldn't since it's pretty weak. Really twisting and stretching over the letters might damage them but then it's kids with rubber bands and string so prolly not an issue.
Okay, new question, same customer...can I heat press the vinyl design AFTER they tie-dye their white shirts? I think it should be fine...the shirts will be dry, dye set...but, just thought I'd ask...will the tie-dye do anything to the vinyl? I'm using Thermoflex plus.

Thanks, Lisa
I can see how it would be expedient to the customer to have the shirts printed first, so there was no turn around involved after the group did their tie dyeing – just wash out the shirts after the dye has set and be done. And if properly cured the print should remain intact. But if it was my project, I would definitely try to do the tie-dye first, as the print might make folding (or whatever technique is being employed) troublesome - it will be much easier and exact on an unaltered garment. Of course with tie dye 'exact' isn't always the object!

Which brings me to your second question: a properly washed and dried tie dyed shirt will perform just as a new shirt – maybe better! Make sure the shirts have been fully (2x) washed.
We have done vinyl on TD shirts.
I would not do the TD first without a prototype.
Our wash instructions don't allow for this type of chlorine or caustic, so I think try first so don't ruin shirts and have issues with customer.
We have done vinyl over tie dyed shirts with no problem many times. We have never done tie dye after the vinyl was already applied so I don't know how well that would work. Unless you are doing the vinyl in a black or dark blue or green, I would also be concerned about the tie dye coloring the vinyl too. I know some tie dyes will not adhere to materials other than cotton or organic materials, but then some others do. So I would guess that it would also depend on the dyes they are using whether there would be a problem with that. I would think they would have the best results with tie dying the shirts first and then putting the vinyl after washing them well.
I concur...I would definitely do the tie dye first then the vinyl.
The folding, twisting and banding can mar the surface of the vinyl
and in some cases the dyes can discolor the vinyl. I've teamed up
with a print shop on numerous projects and we've always had our
best results with tie dyeing first.

Jo
I know this is an older post, but about 3 weeks ago I had the same question, and don't remember seeing anyone post with an experienced reply so I figured I'd follow up.. I printed a dozen shirts for a family reunion they were white shirts with a white Vinyl design. (Stahls Fashion film) we then dyed them on our vacation with Procion Dyes from Dharma Trading Company. the shirts came out amazing. we followed all the steps (prewash, Soak in Soda Ash, dye, let set, rinse and wash again) they came out looking amazing and the text was perfectly white afterwords and no problems on any of the dozen shirts.. so feel confident if you're using the proper tie dye chemicals on your cotton shirts.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

I’ve been searching for the answer to this question for a month now. I’m also taking about 12 shirts to a family reunion (out of state) and I’d like to press them so everyone can tie dye them, and take them home.
I love that you use all Dharma products, cause that’s all I use!
However I’m using Siser Stretch on the women’s shirts, and SoftFlex on the children and mens (both black). I’ll report back on how it goes!


I know this is an older post, but about 3 weeks ago I had the same question, and don't remember seeing anyone post with an experienced reply so I figured I'd follow up.. I printed a dozen shirts for a family reunion they were white shirts with a white Vinyl design. (Stahls Fashion film) we then dyed them on our vacation with Procion Dyes from Dharma Trading Company. the shirts came out amazing. we followed all the steps (prewash, Soak in Soda Ash, dye, let set, rinse and wash again) they came out looking amazing and the text was perfectly white afterwords and no problems on any of the dozen shirts.. so feel confident if you're using the proper tie dye chemicals on your cotton shirts.
I know this is an older post, but about 3 weeks ago I had the same question, and don't remember seeing anyone post with an experienced reply so I figured I'd follow up.. I printed a dozen shirts for a family reunion they were white shirts with a white Vinyl design. (Stahls Fashion film) we then dyed them on our vacation with Procion Dyes from Dharma Trading Company. the shirts came out amazing. we followed all the steps (prewash, Soak in Soda Ash, dye, let set, rinse and wash again) they came out looking amazing and the text was perfectly white afterwords and no problems on any of the dozen shirts.. so feel confident if you're using the proper tie dye chemicals on your cotton shirts.
How did you section off the vinyl? I got a shirt with a vinyl on it and really wanna tie die it and not sure how I should go about it
The dye shouldn't take to the vinyl. No need to section it off.
I have noticed some 'Fashion' vinyls will hold onto some color from tie dye. So I wouldn't do a white or bright colored vinyl if you haven't tested it. but I print and also heat press shirts with a black design for people who want to tie dye. Good stuff.
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