can anyone explain?

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withindustries

Discussion Starter · Oct 16, 2008

so I'm using heat transfers and I've applied many. I just had a couple shirts that I made for myself get screwed up

I pressed them and they looked good. I washed and dried them like normal but when I saw the the image looked like wrinkled skin and I could peel it off!

The temp is correct as is the time pressed. I'm wondering perhaps I didn't press the shirt first to take out moisture? Could that be it? Or do the transfers need to stored a certain way?

Any help would be great!

Mikey

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queerrep

· #2 · Oct 16, 2008

Are you using plastisol or inkjet transfers?

withindustries

Discussion Starter · #3 · Oct 16, 2008

plastisol transfer

queerrep

· #4 · Oct 16, 2008

Is it white ink, by chance? I have had some do exactly what you are describing ... buckling and peeling after washing/drying. I tried higher heat, lower heat, higher dwell time, lower dwell time but nothing worked.

How old are these transfers?

queerrep

· #5 · Oct 16, 2008

p.s. Pre-pressing to get the moisture out didn't work, either.

withindustries

Discussion Starter · #6 · Oct 16, 2008

these transfers are about a month old if that and the colours were either brown or navy

:s

Rather confusing....

Girlzndollz

· #7 · Oct 22, 2008

queerrep said:
Is it white ink, by chance? I have had some do exactly what you are describing ... buckling and peeling after washing/drying. I tried higher heat, lower heat, higher dwell time, lower dwell time but nothing worked.

How old are these transfers?

Hey Rhonda...

Where were the transfers from?

I had wrinkling after a wash like you guys describe, but it was with opaque inkjet heat transfer papers (Ironall Dk) and it turned out the shirt had additional shrinkage, but that doesn't sound like what's up here.... so I am wondering where the plastisols came from that you used. Thanks.

Leatherneck

· #8 · Oct 22, 2008

Girlzndollz said:
Hey Rhonda...

Where were the transfers from?

I had wrinkling after a wash like you guys describe, but it was with opaque inkjet heat transfer papers (Ironall Dk) and it turned out the shirt had additional shrinkage, but that doesn't sound like what's up here.... so I am wondering where the plastisols came from that you used. Thanks.

Yes, I would be curious where they came from also. I have seen this problem a couple of times but was not able to find out what caused it.

Girlzndollz

· #9 · Oct 22, 2008

And it was plastisols, as well, Rick?

queerrep

· #10 · Oct 22, 2008

Girlzndollz said:
Hey Rhonda...

Where were the transfers from?

I had wrinkling after a wash like you guys describe, but it was with opaque inkjet heat transfer papers (Ironall Dk) and it turned out the shirt had additional shrinkage, but that doesn't sound like what's up here.... so I am wondering where the plastisols came from that you used. Thanks.

Ummm ... well, now that they are out of business I guess I can say that they were from Boo Z Warehouse and they were horrible from the get-go. This is white ink I'm talking about. I got a brown plastisol transfer from them and they weren't great – but at least it didn't peel after washing.

queerrep

· #11 · Oct 22, 2008

And I've also heard that white plastisol transfers have a shelf life of only a year ... so that's why I was asking him if they were white.

withindustries

Discussion Starter · #12 · Oct 22, 2008

hi guys

My transfers were from Versatrans and after I called them they said that it could have been that my press wasn't as hot as it read plus perhaps not enough pressure...

I adjusted both and so far so good

Girlzndollz

· #13 · Oct 22, 2008

Oh, I've heard people talk about Boo Z, maybe that is why they are out of biz now. I hadn't heard about the white ink having a shelf life, so thanks for that.

I know you use JPSS, but do you use JPSS or plastisols for your designs, or both? If you use the plastisols, too, where do you get them?

Girlzndollz

· #14 · Oct 22, 2008

withindustries said:
hi guys

My transfers were from Versatrans and after I called them they said that it could have been that my press wasn't as hot as it read plus perhaps not enough pressure...

I adjusted both and so far so good

That's good news, Mike, and thanks for the update. Do you think you'll ever check the temp on your press to see what it is running at? Do you know how to do that?

queerrep

· #15 · Oct 22, 2008

Glad you figured it out, Mikey. I always press at a higher temp than what the directions say.

Girlzndollz said:
I know you use JPSS, but do you use JPSS or plastisols for your designs, or both? If you use the plastisols, too, where do you get them?

At this point some are plastisol and some are inkjet, but I'm trying to move over to all plastisol. I use F&M mostly, but I have also used First Edition in the past.

Right now I'm out of JPSS and trying to decide if I should buy more or not.

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Leatherneck

· #16 · Oct 22, 2008

Girlzndollz said:
And it was plastisols, as well, Rick?

They sure were Kelly, I wish I knew what caused it to happen

Leatherneck

· #17 · Oct 22, 2008

Girlzndollz said:
That's good news, Mike, and thanks for the update. Do you think you'll ever check the temp on your press to see what it is running at? Do you know how to do that?

Thats excellent news

... Also Kelly, when I saw this same thing happen it was not with garments I personally had done. But was shaken about plastisols when I saw the result ... not so shaken anymore LOL

withindustries

Discussion Starter · #18 · Oct 22, 2008

no I don't know how to tell the actual temp... Do u?

And don't worry about plastisols... To me they r a god send! I love them and Versatrans does a great job at customer service too so that helps

Girlzndollz

· #19 · Oct 23, 2008

Rick, yeah, I usually hear awesome things about plastisols. I bet it was scary because they are supposed to be so great. That kind of wrinkling you may understand happening with a dark ht paper on a shirt that is not preshrunk, or one that is 100 cotton that is preshrunk, but had a little left to go. Do you have a plastisol that you like to use?

Hey Mike,
There are two ways. The most recommended way is to buy one of those non-contact IR guns from Harbor Freight. But, I hear depending on the surface of the press, that may not work. There are heat tape strips that test the temp. The guns cost about $30, and the heat tapes are a one time use, but supposedly work for all presses and are more accurate. (??) That's the word on the street. I think I saved one of the threads as a fav, hang on, let me look....

Yea, I saved it. Mark/DAGuide always has this info and it always escapes me, so glad I finally grabbed one of these posts.

This thread is actually about the info I posted above, so now you can read it as it happened, here you go:
http://www.t-shirtforums.com/heat-press-heat-transfers/t57393.html#post340801

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withindustries

Discussion Starter · #20 · Oct 23, 2008

awesome... Thx

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