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best way to decorate totes of 50% recycled polyester 600D/PVC

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Hi everyone,
We recently purchased some Utlra Club totes from Bodek and Rhodes made of "50% recycled polyester 600D/PVC". What is the best was to decorate these?

Can they be screen printed? Do we need special ink? Will they burn in the dryer?

Would it be better to use heat transfers?

Can they be embroidered?

Thanks a million.
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My experience was with a 750 denier. I ran one through my conveyor, at the temp required to cure the inks.

No go. It started to shrivel and wrinkle, and basically, it reminded me of Shrinky Dinks. LOL

For that type of item, I'm going to go with air cure inks for screen printing.

Now--embroidery. I have also attempted embroidery on 750 denier. I used a stickyback bottom stabilizer, so the bag didn't get hoop burn. I also stabilized the top, with WSS (Vilene type). I'm a firm believer in bottom AND top stabilizing, whenever I can. I just feel it produces a better stitch quality.

I used the industry standards on choosing a needle type (can't remember exactly right now which I used, whether BP or sharp). I used my typical setup of threads. (I'm a Madeira user---through and through.)

I wasn't really happy with the outcome. The denier would pucker, no matter HOW MUCH stabilizer I used- front and back. The bag also snagged several times. I was so frustrated after about 3 attempts, I gave up and found a different type of bag, 100% cotton. LOL

FWIW, it could've been the QUALITY of the bags. I dunno. I love that particular bag and they are a popular item for me. However, I won't embroider on them. I'm in the process of ordering samples of the cotton bags I've found for the screen printing process as well as embroidery.

Good luck.
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Thanks, maybe air dry inks are the way to go. I should have considered the material before I bought it...
I commonly print these all of the time using standard Wilflex Plastisol inks, I always run one down the dryer first to make it doesn't melt, if it does I priunt the same way and dry with a heat gun instead, of course embroidery should work too.

Thanks Steve - do you still cure it to 320 degrees? And what exactly is 600D/PVC? I don't even know... :)
Thanks Steve - do you still cure it to 320 degrees? And what exactly is 600D/PVC? I don't even know... :)
Denier is a type of vinyl--same as PVC. The 600 is the thread count. I once had some that was almost like rubber--the texture and weight. It all has polyester (of some sort) in it, which is what makes it vulnerable to the higher temps. (Polyester = plastic = meltable)

Most of the plastisols MUST be cured to 320, unless its a low temp cure. And it would tell you if it is. So yes, with a regular plastisol it needs 320. My bags continuously shriveled and started to melt, which is why I went to air dry. Even with a heat gun, I'm not sure how you'd gauge the temp you're curing to. :confused:

That's the "short" answer. There are probably some on here that can explain in more detail for you. :D
Yes, I am afraid it will melt. I guess I can try and see! Thanks for the explanation. Do you think a heat transfer would work?
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