Best transfer paper of light and dark t-shirts?

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7amasha

Discussion Starter · Apr 24, 2012

Hi all, I'm new here, I tried lots of transfer paper available where I live but none of them gave me the desired look and durability. so I read many articles talking about this topic in this forum, and i figured out that the best transfer paper is JPSS for light fabrics. so i decided to buy it online but I'm little bit confused where could I buy the original papers, because I read that there is another transfer paper carry the same name! so could you help me with some links (ebay.com, amazon.com...) for the original papers?

and regarding the transfer papers for the dark fabric, what is the best transfer for them?

I'm using brother printer with dye-sublimation ink by the way.
thanks in advance,
Ahmad

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lben

· #2 · Apr 24, 2012

Sublimation ink is for sublimation and sublimation paper and 100% polyester only. If you are going to use JPSS paper, you need to switch over to pigment ink. Epson printers are the best for heat transfers because of the way the print heads deposit ink. You can get the JPSS from conde, bestblanks, and several other vendors listed on the left of this screen.

As for printing on dark fabrics is concerned I haven't tried it yet with heat transfers. It is a 2 step process that needs cutting or trimming and from what I understand the end results aren't that impressive because the white background paper is usually pretty thick.

charles95405

· #3 · Apr 24, 2012

I have been in this biz for 13 years or so and I have yet to find an inkjet transfer for dark that I find commercially viable...the hand is just too heavy for my customers

For lights...JPSS is probably as good as any

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7amasha

Discussion Starter · #4 · Apr 26, 2012

Thanx all for replying, so i think I'll order online through one of these vendors and hopefully get the quality i want,,,

royster13

· #5 · Apr 26, 2012

charles95405 said:
I have been in this biz for 13 years or so and I have yet to find an inkjet transfer for dark that I find commercially viable...the hand is just too heavy for my customers

For lights...JPSS is probably as good as any

+1 on both parts of this post....

Sunjoa

· #6 · Apr 27, 2012

Does the JPSS need to be cut down or weeded if I am using it on lights?
Thanks!

mingualez

· #7 · May 18, 2012

Ironall for darks is what you want.

BroJames

· #8 · May 18, 2012

7amasha said:
Hi all, I'm new here, I tried lots of transfer paper available where I live but none of them gave me the desired look and durability. so I read many articles talking about this topic in this forum, and i figured out that the best transfer paper is JPSS for light fabrics. so i decided to buy it online but I'm little bit confused where could I buy the original papers, because I read that there is another transfer paper carry the same name! so could you help me with some links (ebay.com, amazon.com...) for the original papers?

and regarding the transfer papers for the dark fabric, what is the best transfer for them?

I'm using brother printer with dye-sublimation ink by the way.
thanks in advance,
Ahmad

JPSS, using pigment inks (not sublimated), does need to be weeded manually or by a cutter/plotter

7amasha

Discussion Starter · #9 · May 21, 2012

BroJames said:
JPSS, using pigment inks (not sublimated), does need to be weeded manually or by a cutter/plotter

The problem now is that where I live they dont sell Epson printers any more, only available cannon, Xerox, and HP. so can you suggest me a printer to use pigment ink? or can I just remove the sublimation ink from my Brother printer and replace it with pigment ink in a new cartridge?!

Fenrir

· #10 · May 21, 2012

Other than high end wide format HP printers, the only ones I know of that use pigment for all colors are the Officejet 8X00 series, that take the 940/940XL cartridges. Their colors are so rich and vibrant, however (for a 4-color pigment, anyway) I kind of wonder whether it's 100% pigment or a pigment/dye hybrid ink. I've never tried making a transfer with it.

BroJames

· #11 · May 22, 2012 (Edited)

7amasha said:
The problem now is that where I live they dont sell Epson printers any more, only available cannon, Xerox, and HP. so can you suggest me a printer to use pigment ink? or can I just remove the sublimation ink from my Brother printer and replace it with pigment ink in a new cartridge?!

Most, if not all HP & canon desktop printers are not designed for pigment inks. In layman's language, people in the know (like technicians) just say they can't use pigment inks.

I do know(and hopefully I remember right) of brother printers designed for pigment inks so yes you can replace the inks of these models with generic pigment inks. But I am not familiar with the specifics of brother printers including CISS availability.

CreativiTEES

· #12 · May 22, 2012

I use jpss for white shirts and I use 3g jet opaque for dark shirts. There is a white background for the dark colored transfer but there is ways around it such as cutting a box around the image, printing the white to be the same color as the shirt to blend in, or counter cutting around the whole image. I just do whatever works best for the image. Like everyone said they are a little thicker, but I am still making money with them as opposed to not even making black shirts. So they work for me.

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BroJames

· #13 · May 23, 2012

CreativiTEES said:
I use jpss for white shirts and I use 3g jet opaque for dark shirts. There is a white background for the dark colored transfer but there is ways around it such as cutting a box around the image, printing the white to be the same color as the shirt to blend in, or counter cutting around the whole image. I just do whatever works best for the image. Like everyone said they are a little thicker, but I am still making money with them as opposed to not even making black shirts. So they work for me.

And try your best to cut off the unwanted areas leaving as little of the "blend-in" color as possible.

7amasha

Discussion Starter · #14 · May 24, 2012

I ordered the sample pack form Heat press reviews, heat transfer paper, hot fix rhinestones and more- to start a business and I'll receive it in a week, hopefully the papers work with me,,,

mingualez

· #15 · May 27, 2012

CreativiTEES said:
I use 3g jet opaque for dark shirts.

I have found this to be quite a heavy transfer. But I can suffer that. My main issue is corner lift and transfer sitting on fabric as opposed to pressing into a little. Do you or have you ever had corner lift or very slight edge lift ie enough to say grab with tweesers??? Do you use spec press time / temp. Or have you come up with your own combo? I can only get a reasonable press at 192/25 secs. (my heat press is running fine on steady temp!!)
Please help. This is driving me mad!!

Thanks in advance

CreativiTEES

· #16 · May 27, 2012

Its probably not hot enough. I press for the recommended time and temp of 350 for 30 seconds and havent had any problems. Before I used 3g jet opaques I sometimes had the corner that I would peel up that I was peeling the backing from, and to prevent it I would just press down it with my finger right before I peeled. Are you using parchment paper and a teflon sheet before you press?

mingualez

· #17 · May 28, 2012

CreativiTEES said:
Are you using parchment paper and a teflon sheet before you press?

Thanks for reply.

190C = 374F So much hotter than spec
I Just use parchment paper. Heat any moisture out of tshirt. Transfer on and press with parchment, simple as that. The corner lift seems to be a wide spread prob, even more so on the jet opaque, of which I have been able to rip clean off of Tshirt.

spizzles

· #18 · May 28, 2012

Any links to get the JPSS paper? i'm based in Dubai

mgparrish

· #19 · Jun 3, 2012

7amasha said:
The problem now is that where I live they dont sell Epson printers any more, only available cannon, Xerox, and HP. so can you suggest me a printer to use pigment ink? or can I just remove the sublimation ink from my Brother printer and replace it with pigment ink in a new cartridge?!

The Brother printer has long ink lines so you would have to purge out the old inks first. Small Epson printers sit on top of the print head (no ink lines) and won't have this limitation.

mgparrish

· #20 · Jun 3, 2012

mingualez said:
Ironall for darks is what you want.

Agree, and IT DOES NOT CRACK like all the other single step papers do.

However, the paper seems to be getting scarce, it also goes under other names, "Inkflex Dark" and "Super Stretchy" but I can't find it anymore. Ses Graphics had the "Inkflex Dark" for a long time but since January they had a "backorder" message on the web page then in May they took down the product. I called the paper manufacturer (IYA technologies) and asked their sales people where I could get the paper or if they still made it. They promised to get back to me but has been 3 weeks ago.

IYATECH TECHNOLOGIES

Does your supplier have the "Iron all for darks" still in stock?

thx

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