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I'm currently using duracotton invisible with my Oki c3400n printer. It's a good paper, but it does leave a polymer window, even if its hard to see. My question is what alternatives, if any, will truly leave no polymer window, and are also consistent enough to use for larger runs? Any suggestions would be appreciated.

From my research it seems like the imageclip papers offers a potential true no polymer solution. But the two step process also seems time consuming, and it seems like it is difficult to get consistent results. To those who use this paper, how many shirts can you press per hour, using the two step method? How consistent are your results?

Thanks for the help.
 
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According to their website, "AutoARTransfers markets direct: AWESOME 10 Second Knock Out T Shirt Transfers, AWESOME INVISIBLE T shirt Transfers, AWEOME Self-Weeding Transfers"

So there are three different types of duracotton awesome at the moment. I assume if you heard something just being marketed as awesome, it was probably awhile ago before the other two awesome products were on the market and probably referring to the invisible, but I'm not sure. I believe the 10 second knock out is a brand new product that hasn't shipped yet.
 
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Lnfortun said:
Thank you.

There are claims of one step self weeding. So far I have not found any of them that measures up to Imageclip laser light. That is opinion.

I just tried the TrimFree and it leaves a dark window on a pastel shirt.
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Have you tried the duracotton awesome (allegedly) self-weeding specifically?

Is the trimfree you refer to the one from Joto?

You seem to have had some success with the 2step image clip papers. Doing the two step method, have you ever calculated how many shirts you can successfully print in an hour?
 
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What I do is press and peel a batch of transfer pairs for the order ahead of time. It takes an average of 17 seconds a pair. Due to human error very rarely I may loss 1 or 2 transfer in the process.

Set the temp to 375F and dwell time to 15 seconds

I spend 6 seconds to pre press. 15 seconds to actually press the transfer on the shirt. Open the press. Wait 10 seconds then press it again for 5 to 6 seconds. Hot peel the transfer. Add 5 to 6 seconds post stretching the shirt.

So by calculation it will take a total of 60 seconds or 1 min. Realistically, when you add few seconds to pick up the shirt align it on the heat press and align the transfer on the shirt. Put away the shirt after pressing, I would say an average of 1.5 minutes per shirt. That will equate to about 40 shirts per hour. With polymer free around the image it is will worth the extra time spent doing 2 step.

Doing two sides which most my orders are the output is cut in half.

Most of the losses are due to human error like pressing the transfer upside down or skipped the pre press step or forgot to let the polymer set for 10 seconds or waited too long before peeling the transfer.

I have not tried duracotton awesome or invisible. I did try the earlier product which left polymer even though it was sold as no hand no trim product. Needless to say I did not like it.
 
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Do you have some sample pictures of Awesome know out duracotton, i got sample before maybe 8 month ago about there selfweeding paper and they have bad batchs then they send me a new batch but i did not get a good printout. Now i try the Joto trim free and for a few prinit out i got the setting right. But still need to compare the duracotton if i can get sample for the Awesome knockout. Here's the picture of joto trim free.
 
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Awesome Knockout is a new product that isn't the same thing as plain Duracotton Awesome.

Here are pictures of how it works. One shows a perfect transfer in a size 14 Comic Sans font. Then there's a picture of a tag made in a small size 10 font, and you can see that there are some spots in very small spaces that the polymer window didn't tear away as in the middle of a letter, but it's basically inconsequential for most purposes.



I'd sure like a discount for promoting this product. :~D
Will the price go up because demand goes up? Hmmmm.
I wonder how Awesome Knockout could be better. I'll have to get my order in.

Hope this helps!
 
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Can you do it on a solid pastel color shirt? Those blotches sort of obscure the print. Not sure if those are polymer speckles. show the part around the image where the transfer borders are so we can see if there is no polymer window. Looks like the print did not transfer well.
 
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What blotches? The white spots? They're the reflections of the camera light on the polymer characteristic of the transferred letters . As you can see, there are no reflections on the fabric (except between small spaces in the tag where it didn't all pull away like the "B"), because there isn't any polymer window.

I'll try to get a transfer on a solid pastel - can't say how soon I'll get to it, but it's on my list. I'd be glad to do that.
 
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