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Since I have no alternative water source in my apt, this is how I hooked up my shower. I have a hose for spraying my screens and can still use it as a shower. I used a Brass Pipe nipple, a Hose adapter, and a Tapped Hose Adapter. Thought some people would like to know this.
 

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Since I have no alternative water source in my apt, this is how I hooked up my shower. I have a hose for spraying my screens and can still use it as a shower. I used a Brass Pipe nipple, a Hose adapter, and a Tapped Hose Adapter. Thought some people would like to know this.
I am not a screen printer yet....But I was just wondering if you are using chemicals to clean the screens in your shower?

If so...It can be very harmful to everyone who showers.

Chemicals will bond to the shower stall.

You shower with hot water which opens up your skin pores and lets chemicals in.

Even though you rinse the shower..doesn't mean it is chemical free.

Long ago I worked for a newspaper....they used a chemical which came in a plastic 55 gallon drum. This chemical was used to remove ink.

When the drum was empty...people would take them for a garbage can.

One guy got one to make a water trough for his horse.

He knew there was a chemical in the drum....so he cleaned it and rinsed it very well.

Then Stuck a hose inside and turned on the water.

Rinsed the drum for 3 days.

He placed the drum near the barn.

The horse died in less than a week.

So..becareful....sometimes the invisible can be harmful.

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I destroyed my shower to the point that it couldn't even look clean. This is a very bad idea unless you are going to replace the tub, walls, and floor. A better option is to buy a plastic sink $20 from home depot and make a plastic surround for it $50 and plumb it into the sink $10. It will save you in the end. I payed $120 for a plastic tank and cut out a hole to put the sceen in works awesome.
 

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I think you are nuts to do this. I hope no one else in this forums decides to take up your crazy bad idea.

Those chemicals will do you in and destroy the place.

I hope you own it (so you have to fix it) and dont rent it, as that is really unfair on the owner of the apartments who will have to replace the whole thing when you move out.
 

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Also forgot to mention. If you are on a septic tank you will have to get it sucked out monthly.
So I hope you are on sewer. I also hope the pipes they used in your house/aparment can handle the chemicals as some of pipes are not industrial and cannot handle chemicals so you will end up with eaten away pipes under your house, good luck fixing those.
 

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:( Wow!!! so glad I saw this post... I too have done this... I will not be doing it anymore... I have only made one screen using the diazo emulsion from speedball. Also used the paint/inks that came with the kit...

I had thought that the emulsion may not be good for my septic. Did not even thing about the tub and the pipes being tainted... WOW!!!

That changes my mind on a home hobby/business.

I hope for my homes sake and guests that I have not already brought harm...

Wow!!! thanks all for the mind opening posts.

Anyone know a safe way to deal with toxic waters???

Also do you think I'm funked after just one??? :(

Stay cool all.

Derek
 

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I was so gung-ho about doing this that my ignorance got in the way. Let me pass the specs with what I'm using and it's still a no go. Then I'll stop immediately. First off I'm using Ryonet enviroline series which indicates that the cleaners are "drain safe". I'm also using waterbased inks. With that combination, I didn't think any red flags were needed. Advice from the masses?
 

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Go to home depot and buy a utilty sink $50... Every shop I know has attached right to the plumbing...but a way to stop clumps of emulsion and inks from going down the drain is to place a drain screen like the ones used in sinks also a home depot find ($4.00) u can buy "green chemicals" but yeah washing screens in your tub bad idea..Also before I get my head chewed off you can buy a expensive filtration system or build your own..
 

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Ok I'm confused. U r talking about reclaiming screens- using emulsion remover on screens and having the emulsion go down the drain. Right? So if I do this in my kitchen sink, am I totally f***ing up my plumbing???


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Ok I'm confused. U r talking about reclaiming screens- using emulsion remover on screens and having the emulsion go down the drain. Right? So if I do this in my kitchen sink, am I totally f***ing up my plumbing???


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Using your kitchen sink....you will screw up your plumbing...(your body) unless you never wash dishes and eat out at the sonic every night.

There are enough things in this world that cause cancer without adding chemicals to your sink or shower.

Don't take a chance.

If it is labeled enviroline series..that doesn't mean you can use it in your sink or shower....

eviroline series may be safe for the drain...but not for your body.
 

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After all of these red flags I had to investigate. So I called Ryonet. All of those products from the Enviroline series are non-toxic to your skin it may at worst dye your feet (If the shower is washed well) Also it poses no damage to the septic tanks or the pipes. This is involving water-based inks. I would highly doubt that this would be the same for plastisol based inks
 

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After all of these red flags I had to investigate. So I called Ryonet. All of those products from the Enviroline series are non-toxic to your skin it may at worst dye your feet (If the shower is washed well) Also it poses no damage to the septic tanks or the pipes. This is involving water-based inks. I would highly doubt that this would be the same for plastisol based inks
dye your feet? hhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm

Well....it is your life....You make your own decisions.

When damage is done...it may not be reversible.

Natural herbs are good for you also...in moderation.

Too much of anything is not good.

There have been many natural diet companies selling their products to be totally safe...a few years down the road...they are taken off the shelf because they destroy the valves in the heart.

Do what you got to do my friend...I just hope you don't regret it.
 

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Wow!!!!!! I'm so glad I read this too. I bought the utility sink from True Value, and was going to jimmy the drain to drain down the tub drain. I'm sure that could have back or over flowed into the rest of the tub.

I recently rented and industrial shop with a stainless steel sink. I don't know how they handle the drainage, but I'm going to buy enviro friend products after reading this post.

BTW, can't the guy use Capilary Film so he doesn't have to use emulsion? Don't know if that's harmful or not, but EZScreenPrint.com shows people washing it out in the kitchen sink. Other companies sell similar products too.
 

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I was doing about $150k+ in my basement and that destroyed the floors, walls, ceilings, bathroom, shower and sink! If this is a hobby you can get away with it (maybe?). A business you will destroy your apartment! Buy a sink!!!!! Take the time to set this up right.
 

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I was doing about $150k+ in my basement and that destroyed the floors, walls, ceilings, bathroom, shower and sink! If this is a hobby you can get away with it (maybe?). A business you will destroy your apartment! Buy a sink!!!!! Take the time to set this up right.
Ok Ironjet. How would I be able to do that? Being in an apartment, I don't really have the ability to change the plumbing around. Humor me please...
 

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get a utility sink or like this its a plastic tank cut out with a drain in the bottom. You will need to insert a y in your bathroom or kitchen sink (easy plumbing?) and install the drain to that. Depending how much you sell you may use all your profit replacing the tub and surround.
 

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I am not a screen printer yet....But I was just wondering if you are using chemicals to clean the screens in your shower?

If so...It can be very harmful to everyone who showers.

. . .

Long ago I worked for a newspaper....they used a chemical which came in a plastic 55 gallon drum. This chemical was used to remove ink.

. . .

One guy got one to make a water trough for his horse.

. . . Rinsed the drum for 3 days.

He placed the drum near the barn.

The horse died in less than a week.

So..becareful....sometimes the invisible can be harmful.

t
Unseen chemicals which we thought are washed away are indeed dangerous or at least it is better to presume they are. But drinking from its container (in relation to washing our screens in the bathroom) seems a little bit extreme or "scary".

For people who live in an apartment, faced with the option to continue or stop printing, there must be some way to go about this. For starters, maybe help define which type of chemicals are dangerous or which are not. Which type of screen reclaimers are dangerous to humans? How many days do their residue remain on walls? Can these "residue" be cleaned with pressure washers? What about dehazers? etc.

I was doing about $150k+ in my basement and that destroyed the floors, walls, ceilings, bathroom, shower and sink! If this is a hobby you can get away with it (maybe?). A business you will destroy your apartment! Buy a sink!!!!! Take the time to set this up right.
I don't see how a new sink will solve the ceiling problem. Maybe a change of cleaning practices should be considered. As to a new sink where the old one was "destroyed" due to screenprinting, are you referring to a new location for the sink? Can you offer some advice or suggestions on how to set up one in an apartment?
 

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I'm just trying to print my own shirts. If I was looking to gain 150k I would outsource this. I'm planning to do under 100 in a setting. Not thousands of shirts. The screen printing is not the business. Creation of my own shirts and selling 'em is the business...
BroJames, being a senior member what is your say with what I'm doing...
 
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