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I bought this machine from the Chinese manufacturer about three months ago, and I like it a lot. The manufacturer is Xinhong and they have several Youtube videos about this machine and their others. It arrived well packed in perfect condition. I also bought the full platen set for it. The largest size is 16X24. I find the temperature to be very accurate and easy to set and I love the air operation. I've printed many types of transfers so far and no problems at all. This is a heavy (170 pounds) production machine, not a hobby unit. I wouldn't know if they've infringed on a patent or not, but I'm happy and might buy other equipment from them.
 

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I bought this machine from the Chinese manufacturer about three months ago, and I like it a lot. The manufacturer is Xinhong and they have several Youtube videos about this machine and their others. It arrived well packed in perfect condition. I also bought the full platen set for it. The largest size is 16X24. I find the temperature to be very accurate and easy to set and I love the air operation. I've printed many types of transfers so far and no problems at all. This is a heavy (170 pounds) production machine, not a hobby unit. I wouldn't know if they've infringed on a patent or not, but I'm happy and might buy other equipment from them.
how long did take for press come to you? They say on that site in 10 days.
 

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I bought this machine from the Chinese manufacturer about three months ago, and I like it a lot. The manufacturer is Xinhong and they have several Youtube videos about this machine and their others. It arrived well packed in perfect condition. I also bought the full platen set for it. The largest size is 16X24. I find the temperature to be very accurate and easy to set and I love the air operation. I've printed many types of transfers so far and no problems at all. This is a heavy (170 pounds) production machine, not a hobby unit. I wouldn't know if they've infringed on a patent or not, but I'm happy and might buy other equipment from them.
The only thing that would concern me is the availability of spares and servicing.

Even top brands need access to after sales. No matter how good the product, a percentage develop a fault. I bought a Stahls press in the UK and I have to decide if I send it to Germany for repair or dump it.
 

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The only thing that would concern me is the availability of spares and servicing.

Even top brands need access to after sales. No matter how good the product, a percentage develop a fault. I bought a Stahls press in the UK and I have to decide if I send it to Germany for repair or dump it.
That's why I asked how much is original. Cause for that money you can buy how many? 5? more?
 

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4150$
https://www.stahls.com/air-fusion-heat-press


that's almost 5x chinese presses if parts are problem. If that would be argument in this discussion. Further more I don't think people who struggle for living will be worried about a patent infringement. The ones who will be worried in this case is stahls and their distributors ;)

And why the hell is stahls so expensive? Cause it's stahls? Did anyone opened that chinese press to see inside of it and compare it to stahls?
 

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As to parts, the company who made the machine stocks all the parts and can ship same day by air. Of course I'd have to do the repairs myself, but that's true of most machines unless you want to send it back to the factory. The machine arrived about ten days after I made payment. Since I bought through Alibaba (registered buyer) they guarantee the purchase process. So far no problems at all.
 

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4150$
https://www.stahls.com/air-fusion-heat-press


that's almost 5x chinese presses if parts are problem. If that would be argument in this discussion.
Your logic works on paper if you were spending 200 on a cheap press instead of 1000 on a brand name.

But would you really spend $826 + import duty/port fees + your countries sales tax at 22% on the basis that you would buy another if it broke?

It is good that parts are available.

I've nothing against the principal of Chinese product - most of us have plenty of western branded Chinese equipment - but the aftersales and servicing needs to be in place.
 

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Your logic works on paper if you were spending 200 on a cheap press instead of 1000 on a brand name.

But would you really spend $826 + import duty/port fees + your countries sales tax at 22% on the basis that you would buy another if it broke?

It is good that parts are available.

I've nothing against the principal of Chinese product - most of us have plenty of western branded Chinese equipment - but the aftersales and servicing needs to be in place.
I don't like chinese stuff for example. But still...4k vs 800 bucks. I wanna know what is inside of that chinese press.

Secabo are chinese. And they have the same price tag as stahls. The only difference from other chinese presses is, that the german ''firm'' offers parts and service.

If you own stahls in my country you have 2 options if something go broke. First one is to go to official Slovenian dealer which are worst then piranhas and sharks together combined and you pay half the press for repair or second you send it to germany. The third is if you know how and buy part and you fix it by yourself.

So by my logic you are in crap each way if something goes wrong at least in my country. Best option is probably to fix it by yourself.

On the other hand if theoretically the chinese press which we talk about is identical copy of stahls, I think 800 bucks would be worth it. Even if I don't like chinese presses...

I think even adkins are made in china.And bunch of others.

Just so we are on the same page. I love original stahls presses. But 4k is overkill...

It would be very interesting to see, what is inside of that chinese press. :)
 

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Not to mention I am in a process of buying 50 litres quiet compressor which I need for airbrush(I am working on home made one...). Maybe I am triggered with that compressor thingy press -.-
Probably :D I admit :D

But I ain't giving 4k for new toy -.-
 

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I think even adkins are made in china.And bunch of others.
Adkins are made in China. Most European presses are either made in China or assembled in Europe with Chinese parts. As long as the aftersales is good then everything is ok.

Nearly all western European low tech manufacturing went offshore in the 1990's.
 

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800 bucks. How much costs original one? :D
With a bunch of accessories as described by rich it is $4609.
I love the air operation.
I'm guessing you need an air compressor to go with it. How big of a compressor do you need?
I also bought the full platen set for it. The largest size is 16X24.
Are the platens "quick change" like the Stahls version? How hard are they to change?
Did anyone opened that chinese press to see inside of it and compare it to stahls?
I found a picture in the ad. I don't know if it will be helpful, but:

 

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What is wrong with feedback of that machine. When I look at feedback, it says 3 feedback, but when I go and check those feedback, there aren't any? Like someone would delete them? Or is that on my end?
 
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