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Unfortunately, I'm getting frustrated with the Cobra high temp inks. They changed them twice since I started sublimation back in October and their newer inks are giving me the hardest time with phone inserts.

No matter what I try, the orange peel/water marks are showing up way too much with these new inks. The problem is the dark colors. By the time blacks are fully sublimated, the whole insert gets covered with the water marks. Lighter colors work just fine. I've tried every combination of pressure/temperature/time and have been unable to get any good results. I've wasted over 100 inserts the past week trying to get this resolved. Cobra's customer service says to use very light pressure, 385 degrees, but it made no difference.

I had some prints from Cobra's previous ink and they sublimated just fine with minimal to no water marks when I tested them today. These new inks are literally the only thing that have changed in my set up. My paper, inserts, heat press have been the same for over 6 months.

Can anyone recommend other good priced inks to try out (with color profiles available)?
 

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Don't let availability of ICC profiles disuade you from buying inks - you can pick up profiling kit relatively cheaply, or pay around £25 for one to be made for you.

We use InkTec's SUblinova Smart inks and their sublimation paper and make our own ICC profiles
 

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I don't think the profiles have anything to do with the watermarks...I'm not sure how that's even possible. The colors are coming out fine. It just seems like the itself that is having a hard time with the heat.

By the time the blacks (or very dark colors) fully sublimate onto the inserts, the watermarks show up and they're very easy to see.
 

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I don't think it's the ink. I think it's the humidity in the protective paper and/or Teflon sheets. We used to get the orange peel a lot when we first started. We know preheat the press with just our 2 sheets of butcher paper for about 30 to 60 seconds. You can see quite a bit of steam come out when you do that. We then place our sublimation paper and blanks in between the butcher paper and press. Works out great.
 

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Unfortunately, I'm getting frustrated with the Cobra high temp inks. They changed them twice since I started sublimation back in October and their newer inks are giving me the hardest time with phone inserts.

No matter what I try, the orange peel/water marks are showing up way too much with these new inks. The problem is the dark colors. By the time blacks are fully sublimated, the whole insert gets covered with the water marks. Lighter colors work just fine. I've tried every combination of pressure/temperature/time and have been unable to get any good results. I've wasted over 100 inserts the past week trying to get this resolved. Cobra's customer service says to use very light pressure, 385 degrees, but it made no difference.

I had some prints from Cobra's previous ink and they sublimated just fine with minimal to no water marks when I tested them today. These new inks are literally the only thing that have changed in my set up. My paper, inserts, heat press have been the same for over 6 months.

Can anyone recommend other good priced inks to try out (with color profiles available)?
Do you use a spray adhesive to hold the paper to the substrate? I noticed I was getting some orange peel using the adhesive then when I switched to using heat tape it resolved the problem. By the way I use Cobra ink as well (NZ/6) and never had a problem.
 

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I have used Cobra ink for years for my sublimation inks, NZ-4 which is now called CS-4 and I've never had an issue with color changes or anything...I go thru about 8oz a week of all colors and have had zero issues...

Maybe it's the printer, substrate or something else...I'll never use another company for my sublimation ink...their CIS system and inks have been flawless along with being able to call Ashley, Richard or Emma any time and they help you right away...
 

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I have used Cobra ink for years for my sublimation inks, NZ-4 which is now called CS-4 and I've never had an issue with color changes or anything...I go thru about 8oz a week of all colors and have had zero issues...

Maybe it's the printer, substrate or something else...I'll never use another company for my sublimation ink...their CIS system and inks have been flawless along with being able to call Ashley, Richard or Emma any time and they help you right away...
WOW 8oz. of ink a week!!! Holy cow. What do you sublimate to go through that much ink a week. Totally jealous.
 
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