Anatol vs M&R

Can you get to a shop that has one so you can see it up close? We have a Diamonback and we're doing 1000pcs 3 color front and back on black tees as we speak. I have had to call M&R one time since we've had it and that was because a sensor wire came loose, I had to plug it back in. That's it! It runs like the day we got it after 32k prints.

M&R is definitely the way to go. Check their flashes too. They have several that are cool for automatics.

M&R - Blindfolded
No question about it

I'll give a dissenting point of view we own two Anatol autos -have had great customer service, rarely needed any service with either of them and they are great machines for far less than M&R presses in general. That said I don't have a horizon or diamond back I have a Stratus II and a Trident, one is a 12 color press, four years old with 520K impressions on it and the other is a 8 color jumbo/all over press bought earlier this year with over 60K impressions on it.

Feel free to give me a call if you like - I love these presses. Don't get me wrong M&R makes a good product, but they really aren't the only game in town.

Dave

Wow! Thanks everybody! We've seen both in action but wondering on a daily basis, which is faster for set up and tear down. Both run far faster than we can handle at the moment anyways .
Do any of you use a tri-lock or other preregistration system? They are trying to sell me on that too.

The one reason we like the Anatol is the Qrunner flash. It comes in, flashed, the shuttles out so you don't loose a colour. We are limited to a 7 colour so don't want to be down to 5 with two flashes on the heads.
Thanks again for any feedback!

You don't need a tri-lok to do fast set-ups, but it would help.
The in head flash is a nice feature.
You can't go wrong with either one.

Thanks again. Do you have two Reno shuttle flashes in place? That is the recommendation but I'm wondering if we get one in place and one Chili so we can move it around and completely remove it so we can have the print head back for more print colours.

2 is better than 1. We have 1 reno flash- in head. I rarely move it out of #2.

M&R is way to go, and think about sportsman instead diamond.
I have Sportsman 6/8 and 12/14 and I'm happy we can do everything.

Thanks for that. THey have a 6/8 sportsman but we are planning on running with just one operator loading and unloading so we wanted that extra head for a print head. With the 6 colour, two flashes you're down to 4 colours. If one is the white under, then just three colours right?
The guy said you can run it around on some cycle to use one flash twice but that sounds like a lot of spinning for no reason...
We don't have the funds to get a 12 colour unfortunately! Do I understand it right with the # of colours printable?
Thanks again!!

Do you really need 2 flashes? You seem insistent on that point. MAybe if you had a 10 color or better, but.....

bok said:

M&R is way to go, and think about sportsman instead diamond.
I have Sportsman 6/8 and 12/14 and I'm happy we can do everything.

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I am buying a machine also, why would you say sportsman over diamond, what specific reasons would you suggest to justify the extra costs?

Rob said:

I am buying a machine also, why would you say sportsman over diamond, what specific reasons would you suggest to justify the extra costs?

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You may also want to look for a Gauntlet II
You've got to figure out if you are better with a servo driven machine instead of a Air driven machine
Servos are much easier to manage and have better performance IMO... obviously that is more $$

Yeah, but you're talking double or more the cost. Most people with their first machine are pinching just to get in the door. MOST people anyway.

Hi Ridgely. I keep saying two flashes because that's what the sales guy recommend. I guess for darks, white in head one, then flash in head two, then colours and a flash half way around is the theory. Are you able to do wet on wet all the time? With our manual, it is so easy just to spin around and around to do the flashes as needed... are you able to work it with just one flash?

Yeah, price wise, we're stuck at all Air for sure... next machine!

Done! Thanks very much for all your feedback. We're going M&R, one flash.

NICE PRINT! I bet they are selling like hot cakes.

The difference between M&R and Anatol - M&R's electronics, and most of all their parts can be purchased just about anywhere, Anatols cant. In otherwords if the electronic brains of your Anatol press burn up, malfunction, quit working etc: And you call Anatol for the new part - if they have gone out of business you will be left with a machine you cannot fix, they make all of their own electronics and what nots. With M&R you will allways be able to replace anything - most things you can buy from Grainger - M&R buys all of their electronics and what nots from other manufacturers...

Rob said:

I am buying a machine also, why would you say sportsman over diamond, what specific reasons would you suggest to justify the extra costs?

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Because you will always need one more head. For flash or for cooling.
And if you can buy cayenne for flashing it is perfect.