[Ripcord]

I'm very interested in the "fairly" new white toner technology. I got a few samples from a company that distributes the Oki printers and they look almost too good to be true. The whites are bright and opaque and the colors are very bright.

I've been researching some of the lower cost options in order to get started and I was interested in learning more about the ghost white toner that you can use in a regular laser printer. My main concern is the registration. I tried printing registration marks on a piece of paper and ran it through my laser twice. The registration was close but not perfect. Would I need to build a large trap for the white to make up for this?

It seems that there would be companies offering custom laser transfers but I haven't been able to find any. Is anyone aware of companies that offer these?

Finally, what is your experience with washing these prints? Can they be expected to hold up for a reasonable number of washings?

 

[Lnfortun]

I'm very interested in the "fairly" new white toner technology. I got a few samples from a company that distributes the Oki printers and they look almost too good to be true. The whites are bright and opaque and the colors are very bright.

I've been researching some of the lower cost options in order to get started and I was interested in learning more about the ghost white toner that you can use in a regular laser printer. My main concern is the registration. I tried printing registration marks on a piece of paper and ran it through my laser twice. The registration was close but not perfect. Would I need to build a large trap for the white to make up for this?

It seems that there would be companies offering custom laser transfers but I haven't been able to find any. Is anyone aware of companies that offer these?

Finally, what is your experience with washing these prints? Can they be expected to hold up for a reasonable number of washings?

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Supposedly ripping the image enhances the hand and durability. But the last time I talked to DigitalHeatFX I was told they don't like to rip the image because it becomes pixelated.

I know the Forever Laser Dark Low temp has plastic feel, crinkle and crack when the image is large and solid.

Others report the same thing. Here is one Forever dark feels like a raincoat.

Put the samples to heavy wash/dry cycles and get first hand experience on durability.

 

[paradigmprint]

I've been using the 920WT for several years and I think I've tried most of the papers that are on the market during that time.

My experience with the Forever Low Temp has been good.

As the previous poster indicated, a large solid print will have a heavy hand. That said, much of that can be overcome by use of RIP software (I use TransferRIP). The paper also allows for "very" detailed line images (where the hand is nearly non-existent) and for gradients.

I've printed thousands of shirts over the past few years using the 920WT and, primarily, the Forever paper and have yet to receive a single complaint from a customer regarding either hand or durability. And, of course, repeat orders tell me that it's working just fine.

I think some of the negative press on these papers come from screen and DTG printers who're losing business to the lower investment guys.

No experience whatsoever with the Ghost printers but their process sounds very similar to the old Sun Angel printers (using one printer for for color and the second for white). I DID actually own that set and it ended up being a royal PITA. The registration was nearly impossble to get right, that process required me to change the white in an image to red for the second (white) printer to recognize it.

And, on top of all that, I found that the papers I wanted to use would not work. Forever, for example, would NOT run through the printer a second time without "smearing" the first print. So I was locked in to using only a very limited market of papers and, of course, Sun Angel sold their own brand - a great quality paper - but priced at nearly $4 per letter size sheet(!!!).

(Sun Angel actually uses two OKI printers - one with the standard CMYK and the second with 4 white toner cartridges).

A lower initial investment that I thought I was making ended up costing me about $600 when I re-sold the set used to someone who was willing to try to make a go of it.

 

[Lnfortun]

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