[sben763]

The skull image was given as a jpeg 72DPI Everything printed 1 screen. I wanted 2. cause I had to P/F/P for the letters to come out right

this is something I drew from a customer drawing

This was printed as supplied

 

[TYGERON]

Duuuuude! The Skull print is niiiiice!

I'll be the first to ask all the particulars.

 

[sben763]

Thanks, The picture is bad quality was taken with iPhone. I didn't alter artwork with exception of up scaling from 72DPI to 250DPI. customer wanted 1 screen. Film printed on epson 1400 filmmaker DTP V3 RIP.<----- this made a big difference. 40LPI 22.5 Angle 230 mesh Newman roller frame @ 40NCM International coatings ink 10% curable reducer 5% soft hand.

 

[TYGERON]

40LPI 22.5 Angle 230 mesh Newman roller frame @ 40NCM International coatings ink 10% curable reducer 5% soft hand.

Hellz yes. All the right elements. High tension. Angle. Ink. And most importantly knowledge and skill to bring it all together!

And 40 lpi to boot!

A good halftone print doesn't have to be 65 line on a 305!!!

See what happens after getting a good nights sleep??

 

[cyclesurgeon]

Sweet work. Funny how things work when you have all the right stuff....and skills.

 

[sben763]

Sweet work. Funny how things work when you have all the right stuff....and skills.

Don't know how I missed your comment DR. but skills no luck yes!

 

[drscotty14]

how did you print the skull image with 1 screen without major dot gain on the halftone. usually i have a 2nd screen for solid areas on a halftone image because the solid letters take more strokes to get solid.

 

[sben763]

how did you print the skull image with 1 screen without major dot gain on the halftone. usually i have a 2nd screen for solid areas on a halftone image because the solid letters take more strokes to get solid.

I set up the color pace with a 30% or 35% dot gain instead of my standard 20%. I will be honest and say this was the first time I ever tried it. the dot gain was almost none I was shocked. I have done 2 other print this way since and they both came out great. I would post but the clients didnt check the box on contract that allows me to share them. I might start doing a few more this way.

 

[ScreenFoo]

That's a pretty crazy great job for a white PFP job--30-35% dot gain is extremely low for that type of printing.

Do you know if the dots are gaining on output, or choking slightly when you expose? (not sure if you're one of the lucky dogs with a densitometer )

Luck? Ha ha. Skilled *and* humble.

 

[sben763]

That's a pretty crazy great job for a white PFP job--30-35% dot gain is extremely low for that type of printing.

Do you know if the dots are gaining on output, or choking slightly when you expose? (not sure if you're one of the lucky dogs with a densitometer )

Luck? Ha ha. Skilled *and* humble.

I may not be using correct terminology. But when I set up my workspace I usally use the 20% dot gain. From the old timmer that gave me some advice he said this makes your output automatically adjust for the dot gain on press so it should make your dots 20% smaller than you acually want them. Now I never knew if this was acually the case till I changed that same file to 30% or 35% can't remember size I used, I printed a film at each size and the 30% printed smaller. The first 2 years was almost all trial and error while doing almost no paying jobs. I own a repair company so income wasn't a problem except all the money I was wasting learning. I did have some help starting out wish I had found TSF before 2009. I maybe way more ahead had I did. Maybe I'm not doing it right but at least its working.

I have had so many request for that shirt and the original customer has given me permission to use the design as long as I don't alter it. Seems to be a hit with the Harley guys.

 

[drscotty14]

so you switch to 30-35% dot gain on p/f/p halftones? and 20% for regular halftones?

 

[sben763]

so you switch to 30-35% dot gain on p/f/p halftones? and 20% for regular halftones?

This is what I did and it worked out. I have some work comming up that customers only want 1 screen with halftones and solid images. These jobs are mostly students for class projects and after the semester is over I should be allowed to post results.

I am also going to give a lot of credit to filmmaker Rip since it makes 3 size dots instead of the standard 1 size by the other common rips and choking the halftones in photoshop setup.

 

[ScreenFoo]

If it's working, you're doing it right. (And I'm not a Harley guy, but I'm a fan of the band Black Flag. )

 

[drscotty14]

how do you change dot gain in photoshop? i went to edit/color setting and my gray is at gamma 2.2 and my spot is at dot gain 30%. it only lets me choose 10% 15% 20% 25% and 30%. you mentioned 35%. am i in the wrong window for adjusting dot gain?

 

[TYGERON]

From the old timmer that gave me some advice he said this makes your output automatically adjust for the dot gain on press so it should make your dots 20% smaller than you acually want them.

Them Old Timers. Haaa-haaa!! Can't count 'em out just yet. Thay ain't told everything! LOL!

That's often a key element in controlling 4 color process. When you get to those higher mesh counts and smaller dots, pressure to get adequate overage becomes an issue so a 35% addresses that.

 

[BnC Custom Ink]

This print is way more impressive in person, and I can say that because I now have this shirt in my personal collection. Thanks again sben.