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Old August 9th, 2007 Aug 9, 2007 2:05:09 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Digital Transfer Overlays

Your experience with Spreadshirt?????

I have a shop where I have uploaded designs in the .Png file format.
These designs were created in photo shop. Anyways, I've uploaded one design and put it on any color shirt that I want to and it appears beautifully in my shop without any white square background around the image. I followed the same design process in photo shop and uploaded several more. This is where I ran into the problem. Now every image that I upload has a white background around it when on a non-white shirt. I know they will trim away the white or i can put R(color) on the design and they will trim away the color.
I contacted the design team to inquire what I was doing wrong and was told that the system does not accept transparencies and was told they would trim away the white or to do the R(color) thing.

I informed the design team that I already have one design that shows up great in my shop on all color garments without the white background. I asked if that was an anomaly? I was told yes it was an anomaly and I'd have to remove it and re-upload it in order to be able to use it and purchase items.

I looked around and I could not find a single shop that had images with white backgrounds around their images. I guess these could have all been vectors but I doubt it? I cant make my image designs vectors because of the color limit.
I also do not believe I'll be able to sell many shirts if they all have that white square background around them when viewed in the shop because people will assume that the shirts will all have that white background.

What has been your experience and how did you handle it.
I welcome all comments

Thanks in advance......
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Does the photoshop file itself have a transparent or white back?
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Old August 10th, 2007 Aug 10, 2007 8:31:52 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Does the photoshop file itself have a transparent or white back?
the .png file made in photoshop has a transparent background.
 
 
Old August 12th, 2007 Aug 12, 2007 11:05:14 AM -   #4 (permalink)
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Default All I want to do.......

Got a questions guys. I researched the topic here in the forums and have even spoken with customer support at spreadshirt and I really dont have a definitive answer on spreadshirt and digital transfers on colored/opaque shirts.
I want to use non-white shirts to produce my t-shirts. My images wont work for vector art because I have too many colors so I'd like to go with digital prints..
I dont really care if it's Digital Transfer or Digital Transfer Overlay.

All I want to do is be able to display my shirts in my shop without the white background around my image. I understand that Spreadshirt will remove the white or whatever background color i designate so that's not a problem.

So my questions is this, is it possible to show my designs in my shop on non-white t-shirts without the white background around them or do I need to find a vendor other than spreadshirt to be able to accomplish this.
 
Old August 12th, 2007 Aug 12, 2007 6:46:06 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: All I want to do.......

Hi, Powermoves,

We've been making some changes on our digitals recently, so I want to get the experts involved. I've asked our team to post an answer for you on this forum.

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Ahhhh. I think I got it. Maybe. Are you tring to do this on colored shirts? If so, you can't. It would have the white background on it and that is why it is showing up that way. It would need to be in vector format for it to drop the back ground. I think if it has clean lines between the color and white they may be able to cut around it. Not sure about that.
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Old August 13th, 2007 Aug 13, 2007 12:06:48 PM -   #7 (permalink)
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Hi Powermoves,

As Jana stated, we are looking into changes for our digital process. Due to the changes we are working on, there was a small interval when transparency was being accepted, so this is how you were able to upload the one design with the transparency being supported.

Since the changes to our digital process are not complete, we had to remove the supported transparency, as it may make designs appear well on products in your shop, but not all designs can be printed in this manner and the supported transparency was causing issues for Production, since many of the designs could not be produced in this manner. Thus, supported transparency was removed and digital images were being processed as they also have, with a white background.

For now, the best way to display a digital on a non white product would be to try and match the background color of the design to the color of the product you are placing the design on. For instance, place the design on a black shirt and make the background of the design black, then add RB for Remove Black in the lower right hand corner. The text does not have to be very large, but enough for Production to see and as long as the digital image meets the requirements, then the black background will be removed when the product is produced. I understand this may not be the idealistic process for digital images, but for the time, it is the best way to show a customer what the design would appear, thus the matching of the background and the shirt color and tell production that you do in fact want the background removed.

Requirements to remove a digital from the background are distinguished contours and all elements greater than 0.06 inches. As long as a design meets these requirements, then it would be able to be removed from the background without issue.

As mentioned earlier, we are looking into changes for our digital images. Once more information about the change is available, then I can post here, as well as the Spreadshirt Forum, to keep you and everyone else up to date.

Hope this helps explain a bit better, if not, then let me know!

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Default Re: Digital Transfer Overlays

Thanks for posting, Temple. This actually answered questions I had about the digital process at spreadshirt as well!

I was never sure how the "RB" text was supposed to work.

Does that mean the RB text will show up in the product detail page when the customer is viewing the product?
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Old August 13th, 2007 Aug 13, 2007 2:36:36 PM -   #9 (permalink)
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The RB text would be part of the digital image itself, so you would add the text, then save the image, and upload it to your shop. It would appear on the product detail page, but does not have to be huge. I created a small example of what would pass, mind you, I am not real graphically inclined with digital images, and this is just as an example.

If you click on the design thumbnail, then you will see the RB in the lower right hand corner, but it is not huge or a bright pink. It is visible for the design thumbnail, but not really on the entire shirt image.

Also, I used this design because it would not be able to be removed from the background. The small front and side legs are too small and it is not real clear where they start and stop, since it is sort of fuzzy, so this would not be distinguished contour and would not meet 0.06 inch size requirement. If these legs were not there, then the design would be able to be removed from the background.
 
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Thanks for the example. If you don't mind me asking, how do you remove the back? Do you create a cutting path and then use a plotter to cut it?
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Thanks for the information Temple. I'll try out the method you spoke about.
 
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prometheus...It is much like the vector process, but a digital cutter is used instead of an actual plotter. The digital cutter has software that will establish a cutting path. If elements are too small, shaded, etc, then they are not recognized to be removed from the background. The digital cutter cuts out the design and then the digital team separates the cuttings from the design, much like the weeding process.
 
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prometheus...It is much like the vector process, but a digital cutter is used instead of an actual plotter. The digital cutter has software that will establish a cutting path. If elements are too small, shaded, etc, then they are not recognized to be removed from the background. The digital cutter cuts out the design and then the digital team separates the cuttings from the design, much like the weeding process.
That's cool. Never seen one of those.
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That's cool. Never seen one of those.
Hi Robert, you can see Josh doing this process in his video tutorial here: https://www.t-shirtforums.com/t-shirt...es/t10209.html
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Hi Robert, you can see Josh doing this process in his video tutorial here: https://www.t-shirtforums.com/t-shirt...es/t10209.html
Rodney, thanks for the link. I've seen that before. I might have misunderstood. I forgot about the tracing feature in CutStudio. When I was asking the question, I was wondering if they actually manually created the clip path (which I guess be time consuming). Then for some reason I thought they were talking about a cutter that recognised the clip path itself (free of computer software). I guess I had a brain fart.
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