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Old September 24th, 2015 Sep 24, 2015 10:23:30 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Shop heat...

So I finally got a space to set up shop...my question is...
HOW THE HECK DO YOU GARAGE GUYS HEAT THE SHOP IN THE WINTER?
I've seen guys printing in hoodies and scarves. Ugh.
Can I not exhaust my conveyor dryer to heat the shop? My garage is a slightly over sized 2 car garage and its insulated and sheetrocked.
My concern basically is the inks. Will they freeze? WB and PLAS.
Do I need to put all my ink in the house and only bring out the colors I'll need that day, hour?!?!
I assume with the decent space heater I have, the flash and the conveyor dryer, I'll have enough heat to keep me warm when printing...I just don't know what to do if I'm not gonna be in there for a day or 2.
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Old September 24th, 2015 Sep 24, 2015 11:35:12 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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My garage is insulated, but not heated beyond the equipment and a small space heater. I keep my inks in the house since warm ink works better.

You don't want WB ink to freeze, or any of your WB chemicals. Not sure about Plastisol.
 
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Old September 24th, 2015 Sep 24, 2015 12:27:45 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Shop heat...

Oh man, that's what I figured.

But is it a health risk to take the exhaust pipe off the conveyor, so that the heat escapes out of the top and I to the shop?

Went to visit my friends shop this past winter...coat, scarf, gloves!
No lie!!! Lol Funny thing...wasn't all that cold in there
 
Old September 24th, 2015 Sep 24, 2015 2:16:53 PM -   #5 (permalink)
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if it's a gas conveyor dryer then vent it OUTSIDE
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Old September 24th, 2015 Sep 24, 2015 2:28:02 PM -   #6 (permalink)
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Lol I would hope that's common sense haha. Thanks though!!!
It's an infrared vastex EconoRed II
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Old September 24th, 2015 Sep 24, 2015 2:31:41 PM -   #7 (permalink)
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Now-a-Days there is nothing "common" about sense
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Old September 24th, 2015 Sep 24, 2015 3:33:49 PM -   #8 (permalink)
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Lol I would hope that's common sense haha. Thanks though!!!
It's an infrared vastex EconoRed II
Thanks!!!
I have the Vastex EconoRed and I have a long flexible aluminum vent off the top like you see on dryers...during the summer it's vented out in the winter I just let it blow out by the door (closed) and it helps. I print plastisol and haven't had any smell or fumes .....
 
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Old September 25th, 2015 Sep 25, 2015 5:54:06 PM -   #10 (permalink)
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My shop is about 24'x24', insulated and dry walled. I have a small heater from NorthernTool that I leave set on low and it keeps the shop at about 60 overnight, when I'm in there working with the flash and conveyor going it gets up to about 85 and it'll be 32 or less outside. I have a 8ft Workhorse that's vented (but the vent doesn't seem to do much.)
 
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My shop is about 24'x24', insulated and dry walled. I have a small heater from NorthernTool that I leave set on low and it keeps the shop at about 60 overnight, when I'm in there working with the flash and conveyor going it gets up to about 85 and it'll be 32 or less outside. I have a 8ft Workhorse that's vented (but the vent doesn't seem to do much.)
Is your shop a garage? if so how are your doors sealed (if at all) I have the old wood doors and they are not any where near air tight. I can watch the electric bill dollars slip out the cracks! Same reason why I haven't tried to do any AC yet...
 
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Yes it's a garage, one of the man doors are new, the garage door we use and it's just sealed with normal weatherstrip. I know what you're saying with the cracks, I went around and sealed everything the best I could. Stuff insulation everywhere you can, the foam fill works pretty good too.
 
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I have a air handler with 5kw heat stip in my 16x20 detached garage. I set the heat at 45. That keeps everything from freezing. I got a Wi-Fi thermostat. I don't print everyday in the winter, heck the summer for that either. If I know I'm printing the night before I turn up the heat from my iPhone and everything is up to temp. Doing it this way you have to remember and there is no quick print. You can warm the inks by sticking them in a bucket of warm water but that takes time and you have to stir a few times with the water warming method but faster then waiting 8-12 hrs for everything to warm.

The thermostat is a Honeywell and has a fan setting that will randomly circulate air which does heat everything up. After I get started I have to open the door or it gets way too hot and I have the fan on the air handler which blows directly towards the door. My dryer is not only vented but I also have a draft inducer and make up air with a dampner at both ends. If you have a exuahast and no make up air around the dryer your vent isn't working like it should. It will only vent what ever air leaks the building has. Once I added the make up air there was zero fumes from plastisol. When doing poly I still get some smell.
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I'm sorry, but what is make up air? Or an air handler?
Thanks for all the ideas guys!!!
Although im still kinda new, I got lucky and scored a ton of inks...but when winter comes I have no idea where I'm gonna keep them. Don't think I can afford to heat the garage this year. Detached so all walls will be cold
 
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I'm sorry, but what is make up air? Or an air handler?
Thanks for all the ideas guys!!!
Although im still kinda new, I got lucky and scored a ton of inks...but when winter comes I have no idea where I'm gonna keep them. Don't think I can afford to heat the garage this year. Detached so all walls will be cold
air handler basically a electric Heater with a AC coil and fan. you can run just as a AC or add a number of different size heat banks depending your requirements needed.

Make up air is air brought back in for the air going out. If you seal a building tight, you can put 50 vent fans in and if there is no air coming in no air can go out.

In my shop I can turn off all make up air and go to vent on roof and there will be almost no air coming out. Open a door or the make up air and its really blowing. In restaurants the vent fans have to have make up air or you can suck all the carbon monoxide out of the gas appliances as it will pull air from their vents if enough make up air is not supplied. you can have all the vent you want but if you don't have enough supply air it will only vent what is supplied.


Fyi it only takes about $20-$30 a month to heat my 16x20 garage. It is insulated and dry walled.
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