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Old May 6th, 2008 May 6, 2008 4:33:45 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Epson R1800 is it expensive to work with?

Hi

I looks like my Lexmark printer won't be a good printer to use for printing transparencies. So I'm looking at the Epson R1800 cause I'm hearing so much about it. With the Epson R1800 I know that you can purchase FastInk cartridges & RIP software.
Here are my Questions:
1a. Is it highly recommended that I purchase the RIP software?
1b. If yes, why?
2. With the FastInk cartridges, how long do they last? (I'm trying to determine will I be spending money constantly buying FastInk cartridges).
In other words will printing transparencies on a Epson R1800 be an expensive job?

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Default Re: Epson R1800 is it expensive to work with?

The waterproof paper is expensive for the 1800. The 1400 uses dye ink and dye film is reasonable. You don't need an 1800 if you're not using the roll feature. The 1400 should be just fine and there are RIP's for it. I think Iproof's RIP supports the 1400. I use the 1800 for positives, heat transfers, signs and stickers. Get it if you're going to use it for a variety of things. The pigment ink works great on transfers and stickers.
 
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Default Re: Epson R1800 is it expensive to work with?

We have the 1800, with ScreenRIP Pro and waterproof transparancies. We also just use the stock epson inks, which works just fine. You NEED the Rip to lay enough ink down on your transparancies, as well as printing halftones. I actually just tried a couple of runs using standard inkjet transparancies, and they came out great. So, you really don't need to invest in the FastInk, and could start out using standard inkjet transparancies. We have both WP and standard on hand, saving the WP transparancies for bigger multicolor jobs requiring halftone work. Hope this helps!
 
 
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The waterproof paper is expensive for the 1800. The 1400 uses dye ink and dye film is reasonable. You don't need an 1800 if you're not using the roll feature. The 1400 should be just fine and there are RIP's for it. I think Iproof's RIP supports the 1400. I use the 1800 for positives, heat transfers, signs and stickers. Get it if you're going to use it for a variety of things. The pigment ink works great on transfers and stickers.
What kind of stickers do you make, and how is the quality, i was under the asumtion that stickers from the printers do not last long, have you had this problem.
 
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Default Re: Epson R1800 is it expensive to work with?

Do yourself a favor and forget the Epson, yes it will cost you...and then when the head clog you'll really go crazy. Try the HP 9800, no special ink required. I am still using an old HP 1220 and the positives are very nice. If my 1220 ever craps out I would get the 9800. You couldn't pay me to use an Epson.... and all the FAST crap...someone is getting rich.....
 
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What kind of stickers do you make, and how is the quality, i was under the asumtion that stickers from the printers do not last long, have you had this problem.
Many popular sticker papers work with pigment inks and are durable. Spray some Frog Juice brand clear over them for increased protection. Highressolutions.com and Kimoto have adhesive backed vinyl for inkjets.
 
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So I'm looking at the Epson R1800 cause I'm hearing so much about it...
In other words will printing transparencies on a Epson R1800 be an expensive job?

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Hi there - well, I just joined the forum and had to respond to your post. I purchased an R1800 almost 2 yrs ago now and loved it, but after about 12 months it started clogging up on me. Thankfully I purchased an extended warranty, I am right now waiting for a new printer to arrive because I couldn't get my R1800 to "unclog" - it stopped printing yellow first - and I spent hundreds of $$$ in ink trying to unclog it before I finally threw in the towel...and then remembered I bought an extended warranty. Anyway - I loved it when it worked, but it certainly was a lot of money for not a lot of time.

Good luck in your decision
 
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Do yourself a favor and forget the Epson, yes it will cost you...and then when the head clog you'll really go crazy. Try the HP 9800, no special ink required. I am still using an old HP 1220 and the positives are very nice. If my 1220 ever craps out I would get the 9800. You couldn't pay me to use an Epson.... and all the FAST crap...someone is getting rich.....
are you saying that the hp printers dont need a rip program. how much does the 9800 run!
 
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Default Re: Epson R1800 is it expensive to work with?

Yes, an HP 9800 you can get directly from HP online for $300 + shipping and I believe their policy is if you don't like it you have 21 days to return it. Get some samples of waterproof film, go to screenprinters.com forum and do a search for HP 9800 and HP9800, you'll get alot of info there. When you start doing halftones you can download ghost script and ghost view for free, works great.
 
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Default Re: Epson R1800 is it expensive to work with?

We just replaced our Epson 1520 with an HP 9800. Best decision we've made! Great solid black films. No more clogged print heads. Plus you can refill the cartridges with aftermarket ink to extend the life.

We use Graphics One WP film which is about $90 for a 13" x 100' roll. Just cut off what you need.
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Default Re: Epson R1800 is it expensive to work with?

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Do yourself a favor and forget the Epson, yes it will cost you...and then when the head clog you'll really go crazy. Try the HP 9800, no special ink required. I am still using an old HP 1220 and the positives are very nice. If my 1220 ever craps out I would get the 9800. You couldn't pay me to use an Epson.... and all the FAST crap...someone is getting rich.....
JMD,

Thanks for this infomation! I was shopping around for a wide format inkjet printer and I keep on hearing about the epson printers with the rip softwares. I definately agree with you...somebody is getting RICH!

I currently use a HP4MV laser printer and it works great. I need a backup printer and I will look into the 9800.

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Default Re: Epson R1800 is it expensive to work with?

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Yes, an HP 9800 you can get directly from HP online for $300 + shipping and I believe their policy is if you don't like it you have 21 days to return it. Get some samples of waterproof film, go to screenprinters.com forum and do a search for HP 9800 and HP9800, you'll get alot of info there. When you start doing halftones you can download ghost script and ghost view for free, works great.
thanks for that info. but isnt ghost script a rip program? i thought you didnt need one. I am definatly going to look at the 9800 though.

Hey this thread went from an epson thread to an HP
 
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Default Re: Epson R1800 is it expensive to work with?

Not to get a nice dark opaque positive. But for halftones you need to use ghostscript and ghostview, its a little tricky, but once you know how to use it its very very easy. There is actually a nice little video on this forum somewhere, on how to use the ghostscript, done by Diane from coloryourworld.
 
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I think this is it, look halfway down for GSGV video

https://www.t-shirtforums.com/screen-printing/t37583.html
 
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Default Re: Epson R1800 is it expensive to work with?

I have an R1800 that I use for film positives only, and I use FastRIP, FastInk, and waterproof FastFilms. It makes rock solid positives. Can you probably get acceptable positives with other setups? Probably. But I like the dependability and quality I get from my setup.
 






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