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Old March 25th, 2010 Mar 25, 2010 2:28:12 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default 2 color design White and Black, White coming out too thick is this a mesh issue?

Hello Mighty T-shirt Forums folks,

We are def. new to the screen printing process. Was able to pull off a 4 color process on our logo with minimal issues and it looks very nice. However on or first in house screen print design in which we broke down into 2 colors; Black and White. It is a fairly detailed design and although the design looks awesome, it just seems that the white is very thick and the hand on it is not what I desired.....

Let me see if I can explain better, the white screen has alot of area to cover so we are finding we must pull the squeegee at least 2 times (for White) to cover the desired area (going on a red shirt by the way).....And the more we fuss with it; it seems the thicker it seems to come out. The outcome is fine for our first try but I want to know how to remedy this in the future? Using 110 mesh screens BTW, do we need a hire mesh screen perhaps??

Any feedback would be great, thanks in advance!


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Old March 25th, 2010 Mar 25, 2010 2:55:50 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: 2 color design White and Black, White coming out too thick is this a mesh issue?

attach a paint mixer to an electric drill,stir the crap out of it until it is soft and creamy...gets rid of the false hand. if you technique is right you could pull it off in one pass, it takes me a few prints to get back into printing white before i start a run .. white is hard to print.
I push my squeegee rather than pull with the angle a little less than 45 deg.
Definitely give it a good stir before you do anything tho'
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Default Re: 2 color design White and Black, White coming out too thick is this a mesh issue?

Thanks Gerry I will try these steps tonight and post the results.
 
 
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Default Re: 2 color design White and Black, White coming out too thick is this a mesh issue?

I agree with the stirring. I also run white through an 83 alot.
 
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Default Re: 2 color design White and Black, White coming out too thick is this a mesh issue?

You have chosen one of the most difficult things to do - Printing large areas of white ink on a red shirt.

110 is a very coarse mesh for fine detail.

It's a principle of screen printing that higher mesh counts are thinner and deposit less ink as shown with the design you are describing. Imaging playing golf with the wrong ir only one club.

Tighter mesh, stiffer blades and lower off-contact will allow you to print smoother opaque images on the surface of the shirt, instead of driving the ink into the shirt fibers.
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Default Re: 2 color design White and Black, White coming out too thick is this a mesh issue?

make sure you are not using a white ink formulated to be used as an underbase as those tend to be thicker. i've seen several shops using a white ink formulated for underbase as there all purpose white and didn't know why the ink felt thicker then the other colors on the shirt.
 
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Default Re: 2 color design White and Black, White coming out too thick is this a mesh issue?

Thanks Red, I will definately verify this!
 






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