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TheHouseofGarb June 7th, 2019 04:08 AM

EPSON WF 7720 good for Transparancies?
 
I have an Epson WF-7720 and was hoping i could get an all black system for it. is this printer going to be ok to use for my Transparencies?
also will Accurip work with it because i dont see it as a listed supported printer.if not can you recommend something else?(sorry for all the questions im new to this printing process) Thanks!

TheHouseofGarb June 7th, 2019 04:24 AM

Re: EPSON WF 7720 good for Transparancies?
 
Also has anyone used this ink? All Black ink kit for Epson Printers - non oem

im thinking about using it in the Epson WF 7720.

bigjp79 June 7th, 2019 02:11 PM

Re: EPSON WF 7720 good for Transparancies?
 
I use a 7710 for my films and works very well. I didn't convert it to all black. I set up a custom cmyk output color that is 100% black with 20% of cyan, magenta, and yellow. It adds quite a bit of density to the film.

tkster95 June 9th, 2019 10:36 PM

Re: EPSON WF 7720 good for Transparancies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjp79 (Post 4433197)
I use a 7710 for my films and works very well. I didn't convert it to all black. I set up a custom cmyk output color that is 100% black with 20% of cyan, magenta, and yellow. It adds quite a bit of density to the film.

I'm also looking into a wf 7720 or wf 7710 for transparencies. (Looking for any cheap printer that can print transparencies up to 11" x 17")

I'm qurious bigjp79 with the settings that you mentioned, are you able to get an opaque enough transparency without having to print out two and tape them together? Are you using the recommended epson ink or can you get good results with the cheap knock off ebay ink? Thanks for the help.

bigjp79 June 11th, 2019 06:12 AM

Re: EPSON WF 7720 good for Transparancies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkster95 (Post 4433511)
I'm also looking into a wf 7720 or wf 7710 for transparencies. (Looking for any cheap printer that can print transparencies up to 11" x 17")

I'm qurious bigjp79 with the settings that you mentioned, are you able to get an opaque enough transparency without having to print out two and tape them together? Are you using the recommended epson ink or can you get good results with the cheap knock off ebay ink? Thanks for the help.

I use the Epson ink, mostly because I can get it at office supply stores and even Walmart. I do not have to tape two positives together. I have not had any issues other than making sure I clean the print head every couple of days to prevent clogging. That is only because I print part time. When I was printing films every day I had no issue with clogging.

tkster95 June 11th, 2019 08:49 AM

Re: EPSON WF 7720 good for Transparancies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjp79 (Post 4433721)
I use the Epson ink, mostly because I can get it at office supply stores and even Walmart. I do not have to tape two positives together. I have not had any issues other than making sure I clean the print head every couple of days to prevent clogging. That is only because I print part time. When I was printing films every day I had no issue with clogging.


Thanks for the reply. I ended up purchasing a 7720 yesterday and failed at my first couple attempts to get an opaque enough film positive. I'm using the standard EPSON inks that came with the printer. Here are the settings I used.. any help is appreciated.

Printing out of illustrator I used a CMYK art board and for the first test I set the black to C- 0%, M- 0%, Y- 0%, K- 100%. The second test I set the black to C- 100%, M- 100%, Y- 100%, K- 100%. Then I used the following settings for each....

In the Color Matching dropdown: EPSON Color Controls

In the Print Settings Dropdown: Premium Photo Paper Glossy, Best Quality, Borderless box is checked, Expansion is set to Max, Greyscale is checked. (I think for the test with C- 100%, M- 100%, Y- 100%, K- 100% I forgot to check the Greyscale and it was set to Ultra Premium Photo Paper Glossy. I'll probably do another test with all the colors set to 100% along with the Premium Photo Paper Glossy and greyscale checked to see if it helps.)

In Color Options Dropdown: Under manual settings I have Gamma at 2.2, Saturation, Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow cranked up all the way to 25.

Under Color Management I used: Adobe RGB (1998), Relative Colorimetric, Let Illustrator Determine Colors.

With both attempts I got light bleeding through and wasn't able to fully wash out the image on the screen. I'm going to continue to do tests but If I can't get it to work I'm thinking about returning it and going with a different printer... considering the epson 1430.

bigjp79, could you share the settings that work for you? Thanks for the help.

javajoe June 11th, 2019 10:18 AM

Re: EPSON WF 7720 good for Transparancies?
 
Try the "Premium Presentation Paper Matte".


Myself and many others have had the greatest success

with this setting.


Additionally, be sure and Un-Check "High Speed"
under the More Options Tab.

javajoe June 11th, 2019 10:52 AM

Re: EPSON WF 7720 good for Transparancies?
 
I've owned the Epson 7710 for about a year now and it has been very satisfactory at creating completely Opaque Transparencies for my small shop.

Tried cheaper inks and refillable carts with my last Epson but, for me, the high quality (though slightly expensive) OEM Durabrite Pigment Inks are worth the Price because they have been hassle-free.

I'm burning Ulano (UltraFast) QTX Photopolymer with a 500 watt Quartz Shop light/Table and reaping nice Halftone Screens in just a few minutes.

Additionally, I believe the Epson 1430 has been Discontinued and the remaining stock have gotten very pricey.

bigjp79 June 11th, 2019 03:11 PM

Re: EPSON WF 7720 good for Transparancies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkster95 (Post 4433761)
Thanks for the reply. I ended up purchasing a 7720 yesterday and failed at my first couple attempts to get an opaque enough film positive. I'm using the standard EPSON inks that came with the printer. Here are the settings I used.. any help is appreciated.

Printing out of illustrator I used a CMYK art board and for the first test I set the black to C- 0%, M- 0%, Y- 0%, K- 100%. The second test I set the black to C- 100%, M- 100%, Y- 100%, K- 100%. Then I used the following settings for each....

In the Color Matching dropdown: EPSON Color Controls

In the Print Settings Dropdown: Premium Photo Paper Glossy, Best Quality, Borderless box is checked, Expansion is set to Max, Greyscale is checked. (I think for the test with C- 100%, M- 100%, Y- 100%, K- 100% I forgot to check the Greyscale and it was set to Ultra Premium Photo Paper Glossy. I'll probably do another test with all the colors set to 100% along with the Premium Photo Paper Glossy and greyscale checked to see if it helps.)

In Color Options Dropdown: Under manual settings I have Gamma at 2.2, Saturation, Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow cranked up all the way to 25.

Under Color Management I used: Adobe RGB (1998), Relative Colorimetric, Let Illustrator Determine Colors.

With both attempts I got light bleeding through and wasn't able to fully wash out the image on the screen. I'm going to continue to do tests but If I can't get it to work I'm thinking about returning it and going with a different printer... considering the epson 1430.

bigjp79, could you share the settings that work for you? Thanks for the help.

I use CorelDraw for my seps, I have the printer settings at the highest quality and Ultra Premium Glossy Photo paper. That's it. I am using Dual Cure emulsion and burning with a 400w Metal halide bulb. Burn times are between 7 minutes and 11 minutes depending on mesh count.

tkster95 June 13th, 2019 09:23 PM

Re: EPSON WF 7720 good for Transparancies?
 
Thanks for the help everyone.

I was able to get very opaque transparencies with the following settings:

Printing out of Illustrator in the Illustrator Print menu:

Color Handling- Let illustrator determine
Printer Profile- Adobe RGB (1998)
Rendering Intent- Relatie Colorimetric

Raster/Vertor Balance 100 to Vector side
Line Art and Text resolution- 1600 ppi
Gradient and Mesh Resolution- 300
Uncheck all the Convert boxes

In the Epson print menu:

Media type- Premium Presentation Paper Matte
Print Quality- Best Quality
Don't check greyscale

Color Options Manual Settings, Mode- Adobe RGB
Gamma- 2.2
Saturation- 25
Cyan- 25
Maganta- 25
Yellow- 25

Color Matching- Epson Color Controls

The latest test I did that produced great results was from an RGB artboard in illustrator with black set to c- 75, m- 68, y-67, k-90.

TheHouseofGarb June 14th, 2019 09:34 AM

Re: EPSON WF 7720 good for Transparancies?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tkster95 (Post 4434097)
Thanks for the help everyone.

I was able to get very opaque transparencies with the following settings:

Printing out of Illustrator in the Illustrator Print menu:

Color Handling- Let illustrator determine
Printer Profile- Adobe RGB (1998)
Rendering Intent- Relatie Colorimetric

Raster/Vertor Balance 100 to Vector side
Line Art and Text resolution- 1600 ppi
Gradient and Mesh Resolution- 300
Uncheck all the Convert boxes

In the Epson print menu:

Media type- Premium Presentation Paper Matte
Print Quality- Best Quality
Don't check greyscale

Color Options Manual Settings, Mode- Adobe RGB
Gamma- 2.2
Saturation- 25
Cyan- 25
Maganta- 25
Yellow- 25

Color Matching- Epson Color Controls

The latest test I did that produced great results was from an RGB artboard in illustrator with black set to c- 75, m- 68, y-67, k-90.

Thanks.
I'm going to try these settings as soon as i get up and running in about a week.


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