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Old July 9th, 2010 Jul 9, 2010 7:31:48 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Default Rhinestone Decals - Materials & Instructions

I wanted to start a thread about a hot topic that's been on the forum recently.

Rhinestone Decals.

I am hoping that this can be a great thread about what material everyone is using - where to purchase these materials - as well as instructions on how to make rhinestone decals.

All info in one place for easy access and hopefully lots of different materials that will be available to everyone. (i.e. no special systems to buy, no special accounts required to purchase the materials, etc)


I will post my results concerning different materials that I currently use and that I will be testing - as well as instructions on how to make rhinestone decals. (mine will be written instructions as I AM NOT a video maker person....but tremendous thanks to those of you who are!!)

I really hope that everyone will join in. (and please post any helpful videos if you have them!!!)




For the time being I will be using XPEL Paint Protection Film for my decal material, BUT I will be testing this out on the truck for a while BEFORE actually selling the product.

I purchased mine from thedecalworld.

I use the 12" wide XPEL Value version.

You can also purchase it in BULK rolls 12"-48" wide at http://www.xpel.com/products/bulk.asp
You will need a resale certificate to purchase at the wholesale rate….otherwise you will receive retail pricing.




I have a test XPEL rhinestone decal on my SUV and so far, so good.

It has made it through a trip to Tampa and back.(in the HOT Florida sun)
It has made it through several thunderstorms as well.
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ATTENTION: I have to make a correction! (7/11/2010)

The "football" decal on the back of my SUV is NOT made out of XPEL PPF.
It is the DAS decal material.

I asked Matt about it tonight and he made me aware of the correction.
Sorry for the confusion and "mispost".
I asked before I originally posted to make sure, but I guess my order was confused w/ another.
(Matt was in the middle of switching out products.)

Matt, Please correct me if I am wrong.
I want to make sure that I post the CORRECT information.


Needless to say, I still have to test the XPEL paint protection film for MYSELF.
Though I am confident it will work since Matt sells and uses it now.

I have updated the other decal thread as well.
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I will be testing 3 other Paint Protection Film products just to see if there is something that works better and/or costs less.

3M’s PPF http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/3MAutomotive/Aftermarket/Products/Product-Catalog/?PC_7_RJH9U5230GE3E02LECFTDQCEK3_nid=FQ2NWS05W4be3 N9TT89Q2Cgl

ClearShield PPF http://solargard.com/Auto/Clearshield (I do not know if this is the manufacturers site)

Rvinyl(but theirs might be too thin) http://www.rvinyl.com/

The above 3 products will be in my mailbox next week - hopefully– and I will post the results as soon as testing is complete.
Cutter/plotter settings, heat press temp, pressure & time and any other information that might be useful. J


I will be cutting the XPEL paint protection film tomorrow using my Graphtec CE5000-60 & my KNK Groove-E.
I will create my design using FuntimeDeluxe2010 & KNK studio.


Here are the “starter” press & cutter settings that I will be using:

Cutter/plotter
170 df
20 speed
45° blade
I will be using a “sticky carrier mat”

HEAT PRESS (hotronix draw press)
Pressure med 4
Temp 300-315° F
Time 7-10 secs


I will let you all know how it turns out. J
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Old July 9th, 2010 Jul 9, 2010 7:52:51 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Rhinestone Decals - Materials & Instructions

Great post Mrs. B! I will be including all of my research, videos, etc.. to this post as well.
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Great post Mrs. B! I will be including all of my research, videos, etc.. to this post as well.


Thanks so much Matt!
You make AWESOME videos!

...and I need all the help I can get! lol


I hope that Scott - rhinestonedesignz - posts his video on how to make "rhinestone decal cut lines" using funtimedeluxe2010/winpcsign2010.

I hope that SandyMcC posts some rhinestone decal videos using KNK studio/ACS.

(these are the 2 softwares I will be using)


I also hope that lots of different software users will post how to make these so as to help everyone.
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Just wanted to say thank you for starting this thread! I will be reading with GREAT interest!
 
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I Agee! I think that every software should be on here for people to see. I just use smart cut pro 2 because that is what we purchased. I know there are many other products out there and have heard that the KNK studio is nice too. I have never used it though, so I am just going off other posted and people I have spoken with. It would be great to be able to have all the programs to try, but there is no real chance of that. That is what is great about this forum! You can do some research and get good feedback from all of the great members on this site.
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ok...Matt has some new "rhinestone decal" HOW TO videos on his youtube channel.
YouTube - (Part 1) How to create a Rhinestone Car Window Decal and Shirt


YEA!! Thanks Matt!!!



Please do not thank me for this post - I did nothing.
Thank Matt.
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Here is a great video by Cybersultan that shows how to create "rhinestone decal designs" using Funtimedeluxe 2010/winpcsign 2010 software.
http://www.youtube.com/user/RhinestoneDesignz

Please send your thanks to Cybersultan!

Thanks so much Scott! J
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You bet! I hope it helps all the Funtime and WinPCSIGN users to have the steps needed to create their rhinestone decal designs.

If anyone has any questions after watching the video, please let me know! I'm more than happy to help.

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I hope that SandyMcC posts some rhinestone decal videos using KNK studio/ACS.]
I created one showing how to get the contour made around a rhinestone pattern (for cutting the decal material):

Contour Object Function

Let me know if you have any questions!
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Just a heads up. Do not use rhinestuds on the car window decals. The sun will fade them and they will look bad over time. Use only rhinestones and they will look good as new. I have had a stone decal on the car for awhile now and still perfect.
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Hi Mrs B. I haven't paid a lot of attention to much for awhile but this thread of your has given me a new direction. I finaly got off the fence and bought a copy of the funtime software mostly because of this thread. Thank you for starting it. I had seen the "rhinestone decal - DAS" thread before but didn't register the "decal" part and just passed it over thinking it was just about doing rhinestones with the DAS system. I would have likely never looked through it or thought about doing decals with rhinestones if not for you. I had thought about doing hand setting rhinestones on cars and "tags" with a sonic want, one at a time but both the price of the wand and the labor of hand setting one at a time kinda made me give up on that, but now I'm thing again.
 
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Glad your happy Terry!

I hope that you like the Funtime2010 software.
I am just a beginner w/ it myself and plan on asking A LOT of questions over in the "funtime2010" thread.



About the Rhinestone Decals.... make sure to do your own independent testing with whatever material you decide to use.
You know my motto... "test, test, test and then test again"!
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Just a heads up. Do not use rhinestuds on the car window decals. The sun will fade them and they will look bad over time. Use only rhinestones and they will look good as new. I have had a stone decal on the car for awhile now and still perfect.

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Where are you located,,? Are you in florida?

I have had a Rhinestone stud decal on my car for 4 months now,, and no change,, but I am also located in a different climate if you are in Florida or somewhere , there is a ton of heat every day.

I am in Minnesota, we get 90 degree days for weeks, but cool nights,

Here is a pic of mine after about 3.5 months
This might be a climate thing.

Also what grade of Rhinestuds did you use?
I will keep you posted to how my Rhinetud one weathers thru the winters,
I only had rhinestone Decals on Last winter in 40 below,, yuk
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I think it is a "Florida SUN thing" beating down on the stud decal.



SJ- what rhinestuds to you use? korean? chinese??
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I was thinking that might be the issue too,,
and that would be a good thing to include in all our instructions to clients,,
the non durablity of the rhinestone stud decals in Such climates.
I will keep testing and let everyone know, how long it wears well.

They sparkle like crazy,, but i can also understand that the metal would also heat up in warmer climates
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