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Old July 12th, 2010 Jul 12, 2010 10:46:55 AM -   #46 (permalink)
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Default Re: Rhinestone Decals - Materials & Instructions

I do as you have suggested Sandy and spray the mat with the Krylon spray adhesive first before putting down my template material but my mat now has quite a bit of sticky adhesive build up on it as do some of the pinch rollers. Is there anything that you have found to safely clean the adhesive off the mat or the rollers?
 
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Old July 12th, 2010 Jul 12, 2010 1:17:46 PM -   #47 (permalink)
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I do as you have suggested Sandy and spray the mat with the Krylon spray adhesive first before putting down my template material but my mat now has quite a bit of sticky adhesive build up on it as do some of the pinch rollers. Is there anything that you have found to safely clean the adhesive off the mat or the rollers?
You can clean your rollers with either Undu or isopropyl alcohol. To keep your rollers from picking up the Krylon, place strips of scrap paper on the mat in the locations where they will be traveling. Or you can apply a small amount of silicon grease to the wheels and that will keep them from picking up the adhesive in the first place.

As for the mat... I don't worry about it having an adhesive build up.
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Old July 13th, 2010 Jul 13, 2010 4:27:53 AM -   #48 (permalink)
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I agree with Sandy on the template material. I too have used the Hartco, the black DAS, and the black material sold by ACS. My initial response to the black ACS material was that I hated it. It is VERY sticky and is harder to cut. However, it is sturdier and allows closer placement of the stones, as well as the smooth surface allow the stones to slide easier. I can get it to cut successfully by making two cutting passes on my designs.

The DAS black material in my opinion is by far the BEST material for ease of weeding. It also seems to be a little sturdier than the Hartco, so again stones can go closer without as much fear of tearing when trying to weed. I use this when making templates for sale because it just looks better.

The Hartco is my material of choice for my everyday work. It's economical, $35 dollars a roll @ JSI Sign, and I can get it in 20" width @ Sign Warehouse for my larger designs. I have gotten my cutter set just perfectly where I get about 95% weeding on the first pull by removing from the backing and placing on a plastic sheet or a piece of the mylar backing from the DAS material. What I have found out recently, is that the adhesive on this will ooze in the heat (my storage space is not air conditioned and it has been HOT lately). So Sandy's powder trick has become quite useful. When I pull a template out of storage, I first dust it with powder, just some dollar stor talc, wipe off the excess and get to work. NO STUCK STONES
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Old July 13th, 2010 Jul 13, 2010 6:53:19 AM -   #49 (permalink)
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Thank you so much to everyone for sharing your findings with the rest of us. I've ordered some decal film from Matt at Rhinestone World and am SO excited to get started making decals!
 
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Ms Bacon and Cybersultan have been kind enough to send me a few samples of each for testing. I will post once I test all of the template material and let you know which one we prefer or works best for us. Keep up the great posts. Glad everyone is learning and between everyone here sharing their information we will find the perfect method, best supplies, and least expensive quality materials.
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Ms Bacon and Cybersultan have been kind enough to send me a few samples of each for testing. I will post once I test all of the template material and let you know which one we prefer or works best for us. Keep up the great posts. Glad everyone is learning and between everyone here sharing their information we will find the perfect method, best supplies, and least expensive quality materials.
What about the hartco 930 EQUALIZER material? does anyone have/use it and any opinions. or a piece they can send to Matt to try with the other types?
 
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I am willing to test out anything that people want tested. I am trying anything and everything for the materials in the process. SandyMcc is sending me a template material to try as well. Thanks Sandy! I will post once everything is test and my findings on the materials.
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I have a question about the XPEL value film: Since it is designed as a "paint protection" film, does this mean the decals made with this film can be placed anywhere on a vehicle, including a painted surface? I believe the DAS material is strictly recommended for windows.
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Old July 13th, 2010 Jul 13, 2010 9:38:23 PM -   #54 (permalink)
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Slick, They can be placed anywhere on the cars. The film is produced to be placed on the actual cars for protection. Use similar stuff in nascar, and on high end cars against chips.
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Old July 14th, 2010 Jul 14, 2010 6:01:13 AM -   #55 (permalink)
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I have a question about the XPEL value film: Since it is designed as a "paint protection" film, does this mean the decals made with this film can be placed anywhere on a vehicle, including a painted surface? I believe the DAS material is strictly recommended for windows.
I have tested using the 3-M product so far so good! (only have done a few decals )
 
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I have tested using the 3-M product so far so good! (only have done a few decals )
Now its not fair to put up a tease post like this. So I'll be the one to do the asking. And what are the results so far and what has the time line been?
 
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Just received my decal material from Matt and I'm hoping to play with it tonight.
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Old July 14th, 2010 Jul 14, 2010 12:32:53 PM -   #58 (permalink)
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Great Jane. Let me know if you have any questions and I can help you out. Enjoy! It is addicting!
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Mike - Do you heat press the rhinestones onto the 3M material? Same as they do with the DAS decal material? Thank you for sharing!
 
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Sorry I did not get back to you sooner, but yes i used 320 degree med. pressure for about 8-10 seconds seem to work ok, i'll keep everybody posted on progress. Thanks to all for getting this started!
 
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