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Old November 5th, 2014 Nov 5, 2014 11:25:53 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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Hi there Guys

Any thoughts on what I'm doing wrong with this.

its something simple i know just not sure what.

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Pretreatment fine
print fine

just curing part its coming up wrong.

Its on low pressure on 180 secs with curing paper.

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Old November 5th, 2014 Nov 5, 2014 10:03:12 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Hi there Guys

Any thoughts on what I'm doing wrong with this.

its something simple i know just not sure what.

Image attached.

Pretreatment fine
print fine

just curing part its coming up wrong.

Its on low pressure on 180 secs with curing paper.

Steve
We had the very same thing and are still testing why it is happening. It has nothing to do with the printing as we tested a range of plain shirts (new and old).

Papers and teflon sheets and the result is the same.

What we are checking now is if the plates of the press are some how dirty or .....

But it is a problem related to the press.
 
Old November 5th, 2014 Nov 5, 2014 10:34:29 PM -   #3 (permalink)
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Its the pretreatment that is the problem. What pretreatment are you using ?
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Its the pretreatment that is the problem. What pretreatment are you using ?
It is not the pretreatment.

We have tested shirts of different brands, with and without pretreatment and the result is similar, if not the same, but the brown is only shown on lighter fabric colors

We are now thinking along the lines that the heat press has had a lot of work and the heating panels are the problem.
 
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My post was to the OP. That picture above is a pretreatment stain. From using dark pretreatment on a light shirt. What pretreatment are you using ? If you are getting that same looking stain without pretreatment than either you are leaving the shirt under the press too long or your temperature is too hot.
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Old November 6th, 2014 Nov 6, 2014 12:50:01 AM -   #6 (permalink)
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Hi Guys

Cheers for input.

Im using Resolute Advanced Universal Pre-treatment Dark Shirts so that could be were im going wrong.

Curing i do 165C low pressure and 180secs.

Will get some light pretreatment and try that and use the P5001 pretreatment i got also.

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Also it looks like you have the hotronix fusion heat press also. You might want to also try adjusting the temperature down. I dont know what it is about the press but it seems to be hotter than it says I never had a problem with set temperature on my chinese press. But when I purchase the fusion I would get light brown box around white shirts. I turn heat down to 330 for 45 seconds for white shirts with out white ink. It gives box now but now it goes away as shirt cools down unlike before where it would stay.
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We had the same problem with white tshirts so will have a look at that also. Was quite bad with anvil 779 tshirts as well.
 
Old November 14th, 2014 Nov 14, 2014 9:40:25 PM -   #9 (permalink)
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Hi Guys

Cheers for input.

Im using Resolute Advanced Universal Pre-treatment Dark Shirts so that could be were im going wrong.

Curing i do 165C low pressure and 180secs.

Will get some light pretreatment and try that and use the P5001 pretreatment i got also.

Steve
Hi Steve,

The answer is in your post above. Dark pre treatment will stain light colours and is designed with heavy stopping properties for the white ink that is not so critical on lights.

You should use light pre treatment and this will get rid of the stain.

I am pretty sure the instructions on the website give details of this.

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In response to Colin's reply, we've had similar issues. When reverting to the light pretreat the design looks washed out, the underbase looking quite poor. We've tried increasing the amount of pretreat up to the point where we get it staining the garment white without producing a better print. Any help appreciated.

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In response to Colin's reply, we've had similar issues. When reverting to the light pretreat the design looks washed out, the underbase looking quite poor. We've tried increasing the amount of pretreat up to the point where we get it staining the garment white without producing a better print. Any help appreciated.

Mark
Hi Mark,

The tee in the picture above is grey. These should only ever be sprayed with light pre treatment or the heat press will stain them.

In recent tests on grey shirts we have demonstrated good prints with no stain. I can send you a grey shirt sprayed correctly for you to make a test print on and compare to your sample. If you would like the treated shirt sent please call or email me. I am a little confused why you have not contacted me before now if you are struggling when using light pre treatment ?


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We had the same problem with white tshirts so will have a look at that also. Was quite bad with anvil 779 tshirts as well.
Hi Steve, if you are pre treating white shirts you will definately need light pre treatment and might need to drop the temp to around 150 for a max of 2 mins. Obviously test the durability to make sure it's cured properly.

Some shirts will suffer more than others, unfortunately the better the quality the better the results so cheapest is often not an option.

I am happy to send a treated sample for you to test, please call the office or email me if you want to do the test.

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