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Old December 22nd, 2014 Dec 22, 2014 4:24:21 AM -   #16 (permalink)
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Default Re: Service from Resolute, new R Jet5

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OK really interested to know how you came to quantify 20g exactly? Are you using a hand held spray gun or the resolute pre-treat machine?

I also use a plastic roller after machine spray.

Why exactly would you expect the image to come off the t-shirt if posted wet? I thought that once the final cure had taken place the ink/pre-treat would be fixed? Again can you explain your understanding of this?

Learning how much pre-treat is the correct amount of pre-treat using a handgun I / myself need to have a fixed quantity to relate back to and have found 20g is good for me. So I weigh the shirt first and after treating.

I do this at the start of each week so I always apply the amount no matter how I feel or what I think looks like the right amount. I think that I would also do the same if I had the pre-treat machine.

The ink is water based not plastisol ink so if it is kept wet for days I could understand the ink’s binding (after curing) separating from the material.
 
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Old December 23rd, 2014 Dec 23, 2014 2:16:08 AM -   #17 (permalink)
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Learning how much pre-treat is the correct amount of pre-treat using a handgun I / myself need to have a fixed quantity to relate back to and have found 20g is good for me. So I weigh the shirt first and after treating.

The ink is water based not plastisol ink so if it is kept wet for days I could understand the ink’s binding (after curing) separating from the material.
Yeah I've been trying to quantify the amount but using the spray machine instead. Using a plastic roller also to help with the binding. Do you actually look at the surface of the t-shirt prior to print to check the 20g is equally spread and how do you cure the pre-treat? Assuming you tested you t-shirts after finding this happy medium...what sort of wash results did you get and did you just put them through a standard cycle?

What do you mean by binding? I use water based screen printing inks (Permaset) and once cured have never had any problems with separation even with the t-shirt left saturated from swimming pool use for over a week. Also how are you curing yours? Time / Temp and heat-press or tunnel dryer?

It affected the tubes and ink flow but I think it was caught early so only a few were affected who bought new machines around aug/sep.

"There have been issues with some of the Softstyle shirts from Gildan recently" - can you expand?

Sorry my mistake, I meant premium ring-spun, not ultra.

Regarding clogging I clean the / remove the nozzle from the machine after each use and check prior to install...not using a handgun.

Yep checked temperature of both presses and are correct. What sort of time / temp are you using?
 
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Temp 165 degrees for 3 mins, if it's heavy ink on top then hover the press over the print for about 30 secs before pressing.

Gildan's production process changed from ringspun to airspun, the quality of the shirts simple wasn't as good and it was noticeable in the print quality.
 
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Old January 5th, 2015 Jan 5, 2015 3:19:52 AM -   #19 (permalink)
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Temp 165 degrees for 3 mins, if it's heavy ink on top then hover the press over the print for about 30 secs before pressing.

Gildan's production process changed from ringspun to airspun, the quality of the shirts simple wasn't as good and it was noticeable in the print quality.
Hope you all had a good Christmas Holiday! Still trying to solve my was fastness issue so I can get back to printing with the Rjet 5.

Ok so using the time and temperature you have quoted, followed by a standard cotton care wash at 30 degrees I have the following results with my kit...can you problem solve this one? I've taken a section of this t-shirt, cured for a further 60secs, and the results are a little better but not great; i.e. showing far less loss of colour etc but still noticeable. See photo attached "Lord of the Strings" I've a few more that didn't fair so well as this one.

Second photo attached is of the mentioned sample. Settings and consumables as follows:

Pre-treatment, Camtex through machine.
1440 x 1440 under base bi direction.
720 x 720 CMYK bi direction.
Curing 180c for 2 mins, lift press remove paper and allow to breath for 30 second, close press with silicone paper for a further 2 minutes

James, quoting you: "I have a 'Weekend shirt' that is used for relaxing during the weekend and it has had no special care. I had that printed on the R-Jet 5 over a year ago and the print is still good and vibrant."

Can anyone explain through experience what the issue might be?

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Hope you all had a good Christmas Holiday! Still trying to solve my was fastness issue so I can get back to printing with the Rjet 5.

Ok so using the time and temperature you have quoted, followed by a standard cotton care wash at 30 degrees I have the following results with my kit...can you problem solve this one? I've taken a section of this t-shirt, cured for a further 60secs, and the results are a little better but not great; i.e. showing far less loss of colour etc but still noticeable. See photo attached "Lord of the Strings" I've a few more that didn't fair so well as this one.

Second photo attached is of the mentioned sample. Settings and consumables as follows:

Pre-treatment, Camtex through machine.
1440 x 1440 under base bi direction.
720 x 720 CMYK bi direction.
Curing 180c for 2 mins, lift press remove paper and allow to breath for 30 second, close press with silicone paper for a further 2 minutes

James, quoting you: "I have a 'Weekend shirt' that is used for relaxing during the weekend and it has had no special care. I had that printed on the R-Jet 5 over a year ago and the print is still good and vibrant."

Can anyone explain through experience what the issue might be?

Thanks
Hi Anton

With photo 1 your color loss is more than I have ever had and I will take a photo of my weekend shirt to show you.

Photo 2 I have seen happen when the paper used when drying the pre-treatment transferred silicon from the paper to the shirt.
 
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Here are the pic's of my home shirt.

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Here are the pic's of my home shirt.
Okay so looks like possible silicon issues for the sample but possible consumable issue(s) given that the cure / time settings are correct and they are not holding in the wash. I'll have to investigate further and do some more tests. Thanks for all your help with this - if you can think of anything else please let me know.
 
Old January 12th, 2015 Jan 12, 2015 5:11:20 AM -   #23 (permalink)
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When our machine came with the contaminate problem it seemed okay at first and then started going massively wrong after it was switched over. The (contaminated) high opacity white that was originally in the machine was being output at approx 75-85% volume whereas the normal white that the contaminated ink was replaced with was putting down at 100% but wasn't as opaque. When the contaminated machine was replaced they also switched me to Camtex ink which apparently is less forgiving in the curing stage but is high opacity so the ink output for white is back down to 85%. I tend to cure at 170 degrees for 3 minutes (30 second flash if high coverage) or 2 minutes, cool then 2 minutes again on colours that would scorch or bleach, but after I've done a batch of tees I give them another 2-3 minutes before they go to packing just to make doubly sure that they're cured.

Honduras tees are the main batch of Softstyle that have caused me problems which can be cured either by putting down more pretreat, doing a double hit of white or as I've recently started doing (and created a new queue for) turning highlight on in the colour pass so that any white areas get a lighter second hit of white just to strengthen it, especially towards the edges of the print where the machine spray doesn't seem to hit as much.

With the Camtex ink, if they're not cured properly there are a few things that can happen to them. One is that when washed, colours have a worn look about them which would get worse with subsequent washes until you're just left with the background white but sometimes the design can pretty much wash off altogether.

When Vince came to install our replacement machine he also checked the heat press to make sure it was at the correct temperature which thankfully it was accurate I'm pleased to say but over time heat presses can vary so it's always worth testing your heat press not only starts off at the right temperature but also maintains the same temperature for the 3 minutes you're pressing a garment.

Like others on here, I've done wash tests on our tees and have several that I've printed for myself over the course of printing tees and all mine have been repeatedly washed with no noticeable degradation.
 
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When our machine came with the contaminate problem it seemed okay at first and then started going massively wrong after it was switched over. .
Can you explain the issues you had with the machine? Was it physical or just noticeable on the quality of the prints?

Okay so clearly the time to cure needs to be increased. Would you agree that 3-4 mins is not sufficient given you are curing to almost 6-7mins? Have you tried a tunnel dryer?
 
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Can you explain the issues you had with the machine? Was it physical or just noticeable on the quality of the prints?

Okay so clearly the time to cure needs to be increased. Would you agree that 3-4 mins is not sufficient given you are curing to almost 6-7mins? Have you tried a tunnel dryer?
Dot colour were using a different ink set to DuPont. The contamination was tracked down to bottles used and was not related to the printer in anyway. We switched over the ink to DuPont which proved to rectify the issue.

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Dot colour were using a different ink set to DuPont. The contamination was tracked down to bottles used and was not related to the printer in anyway. We switched over the ink to DuPont which proved to rectify the issue.

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This is correct and since then we've had no issues, to be honest if's never been better
 
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The problem we had was that after a successful nozzle check we'd start printing and after 2-3 inches of white print the white would suddenly die off and another nozzle check would show we only had maybe half of 2 channels working. A normal clean would get 2 channels back briefly but then it would go again as soon as you'd start printing again. In the end to get some orders out on time I ended up having to use the two vague channels and do 3-4 passes of white to try and get the white base before printing colour. The print head was pushing ink out properly but for some reason it kept blocking up within a minute of production printing. Swapping the heads cured it for a week before the new heads started doing the same.

I don't know if the cure time I use is necessary, I just do it as a precaution with the DuPont ink to make sure that heavy white coverage is cured. I have some tees that only had 3 minutes cure that are perfectly fine and have been through the wash several times with no deterioration.

Would love to use a tunnel dryer but don't have the space for one at the moment but that is definitely on the cards when we expand our work space.
 






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