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Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

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Old May 14th, 2016 May 14, 2016 4:11:11 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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Question Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

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I'm researching different printing options for a new venture, and I wanted to know if it's possible to fill an empty inkjet cartridge with plastisol ink.

I understand plastisol ink is a little thicker than pigment- or dye-based inks. Would it be possible to thin the plastisol with an additive (or use a less opaque type of plastisol) and print a plastisol transfer directly from an inkjet printer?
 
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Old May 14th, 2016 May 14, 2016 4:22:36 PM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

Plastisol is used for screen printing...... it cannot go into a cartridge to print from a normal printer. A plastisol transfer is made with a screen printing press, continue reading on different processes as it seems your still need some learning to do, their is a lot of information here as well as youtube.
 
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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

Alright, maybe my question wasn't really clear.

I understand what screen printing is and how it works. What I want to know is, what happens if I fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol ink, or plastisol ink that has been diluted so that it has a similar consistency to standard printer ink?

It's not clear to me why plastisol is not used in printers, aside from the thickness issue. Saying "it cannot go into a cartridge to print from a normal printer" doesn't answer my question.
 
 
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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

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Alright, maybe my question wasn't really clear.

I understand what screen printing is and how it works. What I want to know is, what happens if I fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol ink, or plastisol ink that has been diluted so that it has a similar consistency to standard printer ink?

It's not clear to me why plastisol is not used in printers, aside from the thickness issue. Saying "it cannot go into a cartridge to print from a normal printer" doesn't answer my question.
Even if you could get this stuff through the print heads maybe a day after printing the plastisol that is sent to the waste tank during initial setup and subsequent head cleans will form a solid plastic film in and over the parking/cleaning pads on the capping station. As such you will have a nasty mess under your print heads from printing and you have trashed your printer.

Before you refuse to accept that "it cannot go into a cartridge to print from a normal printer" as a viable answer ... perhaps you should consider that if it was really possible then why haven't Billion $$$ companies like HP and Epson done this already? It would no less than revolutionize screen printing don't you think?

Critical thinking should be applied first instead of relying on others that don't design and make printers to answer, then reject their answers when they try.
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Old May 21st, 2016 May 21, 2016 6:46:17 AM -   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

Plastisol even if diluted would clog the print head in minutes.Sorry. Maybe if there was a print head with larger holes for the plastisol to pass thru?
 
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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

Plastisol ink wouldn't even make it out the cartridge at all.but if you don't believe us go ahead and try it then come back and tell us what happen.
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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

I have a question similar, how do some companies make their plastisol heat transfers with sooo much detail? Some perform very well and they have colors mixed and smeared together. I don't feel like they are doing this with traditional screen printing onto paper?

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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

That's a great question. It is from questions like this that innovation emerges.
There are existing ways to get the outcome you want. However, insisting on forcing a cruise liner to go beneath a 9 foot tall bridge is an exercise in futility.

It seems you want the low cost of screen printing and the agility of DTG. Let us all know what you innovate.
 
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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

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I have a question similar, how does a company like Trendy Transfers make their plastisol heat transfers with sooo much detail? They perform very well and they have colors mixed and smeared together. I don't feel like they are doing this with traditional screen printing onto paper.

There is a process called DST - Digital Screen Transfer - that combines laser printing and screen printing.
The colour layer is printed (flipped) using a laser printer onto special film. A white 'mask' is then screenprinted over the colour layer. applied with a heatpress. See video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAFvvvQP9zs



Process works best if you can gang several different designs onto one sheet, meaning only one screen needs to be made. It is then viable to offer small runs of a dozen or so of each design - in theory the first design covers your time and costs and all of the other designs are profit.
Less profitable if you only get one larger design onto a sheet.
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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

I think that's exactly how they are made. Interesting, I have never seen this process before. Thanks so much!
 
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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

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I have a question similar, how does a company like XXXXX make their plastisol heat transfers with sooo much detail? They perform very well and they have colors mixed and smeared together. I don't feel like they are doing this with traditional screen printing onto paper.
1.This is spam and it's obvious.
2. It has nothing to do with the original question.


In any case the original question is kinda silly. Plastisol is basically an oil based ink, and inkjet printers using thinned down oil based inks already exist. They are called solvent or eco-solvent inkjet.

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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

1. I've been called a lot of things but "Spam" have never been one.
2. I was curious to know if there's been a breakthrough that allows such since the original question.

Nevertheless, thanks for the info!
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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

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1. I've been called a lot of things but "Spam" have never been one.
here is why it came across as spammy:
1) you mention by name a very, very small husband and wife team, like it is common in the industry
2) you include unrelated info that is generally used in sales pitches, '...sooo much detail...', and 'They perform very well...'
3) this is your very first post and it is a sales pitch (guerrilla marketing, if you prefer)
4) it has nothing to do with the original topic of pushing plastisol through a desktop printer
5) it is a long dead thread you dredged up to post about this company's awesome transfers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by into the T
here is why it came across as spammy:
1) you mention by name a very, very small husband and wife team, like it is common in the industry
2) you include unrelated info that is generally used in sales pitches, '...sooo much detail...', and 'They perform very well...'
3) this is your very first post and it is a sales pitch (guerrilla marketing, if you prefer)
4) it has nothing to do with the original topic of pushing plastisol through a desktop printer
5) it is a long dead thread you dredged up to post about this company's awesome transfers
Gotcha, I was looking for help and this thread came across on Google and it was a general question that caught my interests. By looking at their product I could not tell how 'they' were doing it and I did not intend to give them marketing by no means (they are too high and I have removed the name from my post). I honestly thought there may be a new way of using plastisol through a specific print head like some sublimation inks???

I will definitely be more careful before I reference this forum again. Two people giving me brutally honest feedback is enough for me to steer clear unless I have all of my ducks in a row. Sorry for being green.
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Default Re: Fill an inkjet cartridge with plastisol?

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I will definitely be more careful before I reference this forum again. Two people giving me brutally honest feedback is enough for me to steer clear unless I have all of my ducks in a row. Sorry for being green.

You asked a perfectly legitimate question.



Welcome to the forum, we need all the new members we can get so please don't go because one member is feeling more irascible than usual.
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