Plastisol Transfers.. Attempting to print them! Advice? - T-Shirt Forums
 

Hi, Unregistered. | Today's Posts

T-Shirt Forums
User Name
Password

Register Today For Free!

Forgot Your Password?





Site Navigation








+   T-Shirt Forums > T-Shirt Industry Information > Plastisol Transfers


Plastisol Transfer Category Sponsor

Discuss the many aspects of plastisol (screen printed) heat transfers. Topics include where to buy, how to put them on t-shirts, quality, pictures, stock (pre printed) transfers and more. Read the definition of a plastisol transfer here.



Plastisol Transfers.. Attempting to print them! Advice?

 
Share This Thread Thread Tools
Old January 14th, 2015 Jan 14, 2015 4:09:59 PM -   #1 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Aficionado

Imagine It Vinyl's Avatar
 
You can call me: Mike
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 208
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 20
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts


Default Plastisol Transfers.. Attempting to print them! Advice?

I am attempting to print plastisol transfers. I am using 15x15 premium hot peel papers, adhesion powder, a standard white plastisol ink, 110 mesh screens, and a Vastex DB-30 and a 16x16 flash.

My technique (so far):

Burn mirrored graphic in 110 mesh screen with a 2/2 coat.

Setup on press with white plastisol ink.

Send papers through the dryer to remove moisture and account for any shrinkage.

Load paper on pallet and print with about 1/4" off contact, flash, and print a second time. (flood, print, flash, flood, print)

Add adhesion powder to the transfer being sure to cover the entire design. Dump extra off and tap to remove residue.

Send the transfer through the dryer. My dryer is set at 6" height and belt speed of 50. This keeps the transfers in the chamber for approx. 5 second and they reach 300 degrees Fahrenheit.

(When transfer cools I can pick at the edge of the design and peel it off as one solid rubber/film piece.)


The PROBLEM: When I press the designs at 340-350F with medium pressure for 8-10 seconds, as stated by Ryonet for their papers, the image does not bond fully to the garment. After the garment cools I can scratch/rub the image and get it to flake or peel up off of the garment! I am using a DK20S so im sure its not a problem with the press.

Any ideas or tips??
__________________
Screen Printing-Vinyl Graphics-Embroidery

Last edited by Imagine It Vinyl; January 14th, 2015 at 04:11 PM.. Reason: spelling
 
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old January 14th, 2015 Jan 14, 2015 5:32:06 PM -   #2 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Fan

justin1213's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2011
Posts: 34
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 4
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post


Default Re: Plastisol Transfers.. Attempting to print them! Advice?

You are getting them too hot in the dryer. Ink should only reach about 270. Try turning down heat or increasing height of heat element.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using T-Shirt Forums
 
Old January 14th, 2015 Jan 14, 2015 6:03:11 PM -   #3 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Aficionado
Thread Starter

Imagine It Vinyl's Avatar
 
You can call me: Mike
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 208
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 20
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts


Default Re: Plastisol Transfers.. Attempting to print them! Advice?

Quote:
Originally Posted by justin1213
You are getting them too hot in the dryer. Ink should only reach about 270. Try turning down heat or increasing height of heat element.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using T-Shirt Forums

My height setting is as high as it will go. Is it possible to get the ink not hot enough? As long as it is not wet to the touch it should be fine? I can speed the belt up even faster but im almost certain that only the face of the ink will be dry, the middle and bottom where it joins the paper would still be wet.
__________________
Screen Printing-Vinyl Graphics-Embroidery
 
 
Old January 15th, 2015 Jan 15, 2015 5:05:50 AM -   #4 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Fan

justin1213's Avatar
 
Member Since: Sep 2011
Posts: 34
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 4
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post


Default Re: Plastisol Transfers.. Attempting to print them! Advice?

As long as it's dry to the touch you are fine. The heat press will final cure the ink. When I first started transfers it was a process. I would play with my setting..apply transfer and then wash test them. That truly is the only way you will find your thresholds. If you want to pm me I can give you my number and I will walk you through it and answer any other questions you have. Trial and error.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using T-Shirt Forums
 
Old January 17th, 2015 Jan 17, 2015 8:15:33 PM -   #5 (permalink)
TSF Veteran
Certified T-Shirt Junkie

wormil's Avatar
 
You can call me: Rick
Member Since: Jan 2008
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 4,062
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 812
Thanked 827 Times in 563 Posts


Default Re: Plastisol Transfers.. Attempting to print them! Advice?

Nailing down the heat/time is the hard part of making transfers, everything else is easy if you already know how to print. Also 1/4" offset is a lot, especially for paper. If your screens are tight you should be down around 3/32".
__________________

 
Old January 18th, 2015 Jan 18, 2015 6:22:24 AM -   #6 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Master

DPendable's Avatar
 
You can call me: Dave
Member Since: Dec 2012
Location: phoenix, az
Posts: 415
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 23
Thanked 42 Times in 37 Posts


Default Re: Plastisol Transfers.. Attempting to print them! Advice?

Quote:
Originally Posted by wormil
Nailing down the heat/time is the hard part of making transfers, everything else is easy if you already know how to print. Also 1/4" offset is a lot, especially for paper. If your screens are tight you should be down around 3/32".
I agree, the off contact is high. Maybe okay for single color but when you get to multi you will have some registration problems.

I dont even run them through the dryer. I just print, powder, and let sit under flash while I print the next one. It gets dry to touch and is fine.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using T-Shirt Forums
 
Old January 18th, 2015 Jan 18, 2015 10:34:12 AM -   #7 (permalink)
T-Shirt Lover
T-Shirt Aficionado
Thread Starter

Imagine It Vinyl's Avatar
 
You can call me: Mike
Member Since: Aug 2013
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 208
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Thanks: 20
Thanked 16 Times in 16 Posts


Default Re: Plastisol Transfers.. Attempting to print them! Advice?

Quote:
Originally Posted by wormil
Nailing down the heat/time is the hard part of making transfers, everything else is easy if you already know how to print. Also 1/4" offset is a lot, especially for paper. If your screens are tight you should be down around 3/32".
I will certainly give it a try with lower off contact. That could very well be the problem I have been having with getting my overprint to line up with my underbase.
__________________
Screen Printing-Vinyl Graphics-Embroidery
 






This is a discussion about Plastisol Transfers.. Attempting to print them! Advice? that was posted in the Plastisol Transfers section of the forums.

Quick Reply
Type Your Message Below:
Do NOT Post Self Promotional URLs, Advertisements, Sales Offers or Requests. It is against our Forum Guidelines.
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the T-Shirt Forums, you must first register.


Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

Your username must be between 2 and 16 characters and contain only letters and numbers (no special characters like hyphens, *, ', ~, etc)
User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

A confirmation email will be sent to this address, so please make sure it is accurate and that your email software is set to allow emails from our domain: t-shirtforums.com (sometimes the confirmation email gets accidently filtered into Yahoo/AOL/Hotmail/Gmail spam folders)
.

You won't be able to post until your email address has been confirmed. We take your privacy very seriously. Feel free to review our Privacy Policy in a new window.
Email Address:
First Name
It's nice to be able to be on a "first name" basis with the people you talk to in a forum. This is a totally optional field; if you like being on a first name basis, please enter your first name below :)

Log-in


Thread Tools

Posting Rules

Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Plastisol Transfers cracking after 3 washes Basikboy Plastisol Transfers 23 April 29th, 2016 08:01 AM
Using Plastisol Transfers or Opaque Transfers KnightsOfAngora Inkjet Heat Transfer Paper 1 January 13th, 2015 05:17 PM
Still looking for the Holy Grail of Plastisol Transfers rconard131 Heat Press and Heat Transfers 4 January 1st, 2015 05:44 PM
Separation Studio to Plastisol Heat Transfers kostisk Plastisol Transfers 1 November 29th, 2014 12:05 PM
Types of plastisol transfers Donika Heat Press and Heat Transfers 8 September 29th, 2014 07:50 PM


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
vBulletin Security provided by vBSecurity v2.2.2 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2019 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Copyright 2004-2014 T-ShirtForums.com. All rights reserved.