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Discuss the different plastisol screen printing inks and curing methods on the market. Share tips on getting the best results with the different ink manufacturers.



White Plastisol Ink and Fibrillation Problems

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Old March 22nd, 2016 Mar 22, 2016 6:20:03 AM -   #16 (permalink)
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I'm going to record a video and post it soon. Thanks for your help so far.
Sooo?.....how did it go?
 
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Old March 22nd, 2016 Mar 22, 2016 10:40:04 AM -   #17 (permalink)
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Sooo?.....how did it go?
I got to record the video and took some pictures and posted them.

I've been following the advice given here and I've been able to print white on dark garments easily. One thing I did notice, is that my equipment was a bit worn out and that was a big factor on the problems I was having. I bought new screens and squeegees and the difference is huge. Printing white on dark garments is still a *****, but I'm not longer afraid of it.
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Thanks for sharing your experience. Im having difficulty with using Ryonet comet white on black garments and seeing the replies to your questions may just help. Keep printing!
 
 
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I'm with Printor, a little more upright angle with your flood and one stroke with less ink. One your print angle you need to practice changing both angle and speed and you'll find a sweet spot that lays down a good layer and leaves a smooth print.
 
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Comet White and the Matsui white inks, for me, always leave the softest, smoothest prints on any shirt.
As for plastisol, I've been usine International Coatings Legacy White with just a bit of softhand clear and curable reducer to eliminate any tackiness.
Don't flash too hot, use a 156 mesh, and if you feel any roughness at all after the second print, a dry stroke over a fully-coated and exposed screen with no open stencil area to finish it off will smooth out the print (or the next print in the sequence if a multi-color job. Just make sure to squeegie over the entire design where there's white. Action Engineering is selling a roller squeegie for autos that are made to address just this issue.
 
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Comet White and the Matsui white inks, for me, always leave the softest, smoothest prints on any shirt.
As for plastisol, I've been usine International Coatings Legacy White with just a bit of softhand clear and curable reducer to eliminate any tackiness.
Don't flash too hot, use a 156 mesh, and if you feel any roughness at all after the second print, a dry stroke over a fully-coated and exposed screen with no open stencil area to finish it off will smooth out the print (or the next print in the sequence if a multi-color job. Just make sure to squeegie over the entire design where there's white. Action Engineering is selling a roller squeegie for autos that are made to address just this issue.
Dry stroke? You mean a stroke without flooding? I'm not fully understand the method you were describing?
When I first started, I was having the same problems...grrrr! But I figured out that the ink was bad. Got new ink (different brand) and been a lot easier
 
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Default Re: White Plastisol Ink and Fibrillation Problems

Premix your ink prior to printing, whip it with a spatula to work the ink. Place shirt on platen, preheat just a lil, print (2 swipes), flash, print (1 swipe). Try using Wilflex or QCM, they are great inks.
 
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Agreed! I like Wilflex. When I mix my white to print, I put a paint mixer on my drill. Works great but be careful...you don't want a gallon of white ink get thrown across the room! Get an old food container, cut a small hole in the top that the shaft of the mixing bit will just fit through. After you mix your ink, take out the bit, put through the top of the food container, put the top back on with the bit inside and spin that bad boy on high. Then just collect the ink and put it back in the ink container
Little degrader and the bit is clean. Catspit has a video on it but I feel he's a little over cautious.
Hope that helps...sorry I over explained =p
 
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Yes, a dry stroke without flooding. If it's a multi-color job, the print stroke of the next color will achieve the same thing. And again, don't flash too hot or too long.
 
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Yes, a dry stroke without flooding. If it's a multi-color job, the print stroke of the next color will achieve the same thing. And again, don't flash too hot or too long.
I'm not following the fully coated screen part. Are you saying to have a fully Coates screen on press and use that to flatten the ink? Sorry, I'm not too bright =P
 
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Yes. take a coated screen, expose it without film, wash off any unexposed emulsion, let it dry, and put some ink in it to lubricate the squeegie. Put it on your press in rotation where a second color would go after the white ink. Some auto shops do this after the flash to smooth out a rough print.
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Yes. take a coated screen, expose it without film, wash off any unexposed emulsion, let it dry, and put some ink in it to lubricate the squeegie. Put it on your press in rotation where a second color would go after the white ink. Some auto shops do this after the flash to smooth out a rough print.
Oh wow. That sounds like it could come in handy in a clutch. Thanks for the tip!!!
 
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Default Re: White Plastisol Ink and Fibrillation Problems

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Comet White and the Matsui white inks, for me, always leave the softest, smoothest prints on any shirt.
As for plastisol, I've been usine International Coatings Legacy White with just a bit of softhand clear and curable reducer to eliminate any tackiness.
Don't flash too hot, use a 156 mesh, and if you feel any roughness at all after the second print, a dry stroke over a fully-coated and exposed screen with no open stencil area to finish it off will smooth out the print (or the next print in the sequence if a multi-color job. Just make sure to squeegie over the entire design where there's white. Action Engineering is selling a roller squeegie for autos that are made to address just this issue.

I've been printing 30 years and never heard of that. Great stuff.
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