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Old December 17th, 2013 Dec 17, 2013 6:00:34 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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so I'm looking for a opaque ink pantone matching system, is there anything out there ? anything someone can recommend ? I currently use Ryopaque ink on stuff and have been happy with the results but colors are limited and 90% of my business seems to be on black garments so a opaque mixing system would be a nice thing to have. Thanks
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Default Re: opaque ink color mixing kit ?

Ryonet sells Pantone mixing systems. I just bought the Ultra Concentrate one from them. You can mix any Pantone color and also you can mix into different bases so you could make your opaque inks (and LOTS more)
 
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Default Re: opaque ink color mixing kit ?

I use the 7500 and the older/discontinued 7400 mixing systems from Ryonet, they are not the concentrate systems but the "ink" ones, and there is no opaque mix. Is there a opaque base for the concentrate version ? I'll have to go look.
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Default Re: opaque ink color mixing kit ?

That's what I was referring to, Danny, that you would mix it into an opaque base.
 
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thanks I'll have to look into that.
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Default Re: opaque ink color mixing kit ?

You bet, Danny.
Oh, and if you don't see it on their website, call and ask. (Not everything that you can get from them is listed on their site)
I know with my mixing kit, it was drop shipped from the manufacturer.
 
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Default Re: opaque ink color mixing kit ?

Union Ink sells their Mix-O-Pake Pantone mixing system, which is what I went with years ago. They also make a setup for regular strength inks.
If I had it to do over, and I had to have a mixing system, I'd get the regular one.
All things considered, though, after printing now for about 10 years, I'd pass on a mixing system. There are actually very few jobs I do that require a specific Pantone color, and I'd wager most shops, especially really small operations, are the same.
With the mixing system you'll have some colors you rarely use. When you get it new, you'll find yourself mixing up a bunch of different colors just because it's there, and end up with a bunch of stuff on your shelf that you'll never use a second time.
I'd have saved money, and shelf space, over the past 10 years if I'd bought the specific Pantone colors I needed for QuikSeps, and the very few other Pantone colors I use for repeat customers. Everything else I can get by with regular spot colors, or make small adjustments to regular spot colors.
And as for opaque colors, I generally don't use them because they're often so thick or gummy they're difficult to work with. Learn to print over an underbase. Everyone eventually does if they stay in this business for long, and it makes for a brighter print, and usually with a nicer hand. About the only color I'll print without an underbase is Royal Blue.
 






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