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Old December 14th, 2013 Dec 14, 2013 10:16:37 AM -   #1 (permalink)
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I'm sure I'm doing something wrong here but I can't figure it out. If contact is even at 1/8th. It doesn't happen with every shirt but with a lot of them. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. startex low bleed white ink on 100% cotton District Made Very Important Tee
 
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Old December 14th, 2013 Dec 14, 2013 10:18:05 AM -   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: how to prevent this? Fibers coming through on one side but smooth on the other

Is the on an auto press or manual? First thought is that the screen may not be entirely shot out...or really some sort of partial blockage in that area of the screen, like from an old image/print. It could be that the screen isn't peeling off correctly, releasing all the ink. From low screen tension, or if it's an auto, the flood/stroke may need to slow down a bit or the stroke length may need to be a little longer. just some thoughts...???
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Old December 14th, 2013 Dec 14, 2013 10:21:12 AM -   #3 (permalink)
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It's a manual press.
 
 
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Well, it's not happening on every shirt. I'm getting a few totally smooth ones. I've changed up the angle and pressure I'm pushing the squeegee but can't find what works
 
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It's a manual press.
Ok, what mesh count? Also, is your squegee it good shape?
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Old December 14th, 2013 Dec 14, 2013 10:26:53 AM -   #6 (permalink)
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125 mesh count. Fairly new screen
 
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Default Re: how to prevent this? Fibers coming through on one side but smooth on the other

I'm honestly not a good judge of "good shape" for the squeegee. That may be part of the problem but I did turn it and that didn't really help
 
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Default Re: how to prevent this? Fibers coming through on one side but smooth on the other

hmmm, yes it could be a squeegee issue. If you have some blank tees that you can practice on. Try fooding it a little harder and slower. It's not the most ideal solution, but if you're really in a bind and have a heat press you could always try pressing the shirts before hand too. Speaking of heat presses, on these one color jobs...every once in a while the first couple shirts may have some fibrilation until the ink really starts flowing through the screen, we normally would heat press those. You definitely want to find out the problem so next time you know right away so I don't mean to tell you to simply mask it. Try the flooding and get back to us.
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Default Re: how to prevent this? Fibers coming through on one side but smooth on the other

thank you. I will try different flooding.
 
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Default Re: how to prevent this? Fibers coming through on one side but smooth on the other

I found that when I get shirts that do that if I push down the fibers in one direction (usally) down it helps . Are you PFP or are your trying to do it in one pass.
If you do a PNP (Print Flash Print) only put enough ink down on the first pass to seal down the fibers.
 
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Default Re: how to prevent this? Fibers coming through on one side but smooth on the other

I am doing PFP. But it's only happening on one side and its the same side every time.
 
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Default Re: how to prevent this? Fibers coming through on one side but smooth on the other

have you tried a lint roller? Have you tried a different shirt? I have had this happen with port and co shirts, but not just 1/2 the shirt .
How is the tension on the screen? Really looks like a fiber in the shirt though.
 
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Default Re: how to prevent this? Fibers coming through on one side but smooth on the other

You need to slow down on the very first stroke and allow the ink to get down into the fibers. You must have good even pressure. You might also consider thinning your ink just a little bit.
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Default Re: how to prevent this? Fibers coming through on one side but smooth on the other

Sounds like uneven pressure/off contact from side to side. And if it's only happening on some shirts, the off contact and parallel-ness may not be consistent from platen to platen.
Calibrating your press is an often overlooked element in the printing process. It's important for the screen to be parallel to the platen in all directions and on all platens.
Higher tension, squeegee hardness, print stroke speed and pressure and angle, ink consistency and type, off contact all are critical aspects.
And even though you may print-flash-print, care should be taken to not drive the in into the fibers as much as the ink laying on top. Of course it depends on the type of fabric. Do a couple searches for calibrating manual presses and check Bill Hood's "One stroke white" videos on Youtube. There are also some good articles on various aspects of printing white inks which seem to give folk so many unnecessary problems.

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Default Re: how to prevent this? Fibers coming through on one side but smooth on the other

Are you sure the 1st print is completely flashed? Maybe the pallet isn't lined up completely under the flash dryer so only half is flashed and the wet part is pulling up the fibers on half.
 






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