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Old January 8th, 2012 Jan 8, 2012 11:19:33 PM -   #1 (permalink)
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I was just wondering if you guys use the shirt as a color to save time and money. By doing so, does it make the design look cheap as a short cut was taken to save time and money. Say the shirt is red, and is a red, yellow, and blue design. If the red of the shirt is used as a color does it make the design look off, becuase the red isnt a smooth coating of ink, the yellow and blue is raised higher, and the fibers will lift up quicker than if it was coated?
 
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I was just wondering if you guys use the shirt as a color to save time and money. By doing so, does it make the design look cheap as a short cut was taken to save time and money. Say the shirt is red, and is a red, yellow, and blue design. If the red of the shirt is used as a color does it make the design look off, becuase the red isnt a smooth coating of ink, the yellow and blue is raised higher, and the fibers will lift up quicker than if it was coated?
I think most of us do this all the time on spot color jobs.
 
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Default Re: using the shirt as a color

We do it all the time with just about everything, embroidery, printing, vinyl.
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We used to do this but have recently printing the color of the shirt also and most of the time looks better and not 1 customer has complained about the extra cost for the extra color. I usally print 1 without and for the most part customers like the print better with the extra color
 
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Default Re: using the shirt as a color

Most of the time I prefer to do all the colors of a design. I've dropped colors at customers request before, but I'd prefer not to. Plastisol wears better than cotton. It really depends on the design though.

If you decide to drop shirt colors as SOP, butt-register is the way to go. Traps get funky when you drop screens.
 
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Default Re: using the shirt as a color

Im not doing work for other people, i'm starting my own street wear brand and its pretty much cartoon work 5 color max for a few designs but rather do 3. Im running it on my hopkins 8-4. Another quick question. Im using illustrator and was wonder what the common stroke with used on black outlines for the trap to over bleed on ther other colors. Im was gonna use .10 or .25.
 
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Im not doing work for other people, i'm starting my own street wear brand and its pretty much cartoon work 5 color max for a few designs but rather do 3. Im running it on my hopkins 8-4. Another quick question. Im using illustrator and was wonder what the common stroke with used on black outlines for the trap to over bleed on ther other colors. Im was gonna use .10 or .25.
If it were my brand I definitely would print all colors. The better the look the better the sales.

I use choose trap by artwork and press. Cartoon and on M&R problem .05. On my cheap 4/1 .10-.15
 
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Default Re: using the shirt as a color

I would only print the color of the shirt if there were gradients involved that would look bad if not printed, as in the case of a black gradient over another color in a design on a black shirt. You could make the same argument about white shirts, and printing a "printer white" on white shirts is not unheard of when doing process color stuff to control the print, but for spot work I'll bet most customers would be pi$$ed if they were being charged to print white ink on a white shirt, and I can't think of too many instances where adding white ink would make the design look better because there was white in the design itself. JMHO
 
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Default Re: using the shirt as a color

That example is a great point Tom. I'd defer to the customers budget/opinion, even if I don't think it's the best choice.

Especially on cartoons though, I think I'd stick with all the colors--if nothing else to keep the cartoons colors accurate through the lifetime of the garment.

As far as trap goes, are you talking in points or inches? Seems to me .1-.25 is either too small or way too big, depending on the answer.
 
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That example is a great point Tom. I'd defer to the customers budget/opinion, even if I don't think it's the best choice.

Especially on cartoons though, I think I'd stick with all the colors--if nothing else to keep the cartoons colors accurate through the lifetime of the garment.

As far as trap goes, are you talking in points or inches? Seems to me .1-.25 is either too small or way too big, depending on the answer.
My bad supose to read .5 pt or 1 to 2.5 pt. yes that would be too big in inches and way too small in points.
 
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