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Old December 16th, 2010 Dec 16, 2010 4:29:52 PM -   #16 (permalink)
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Default Re: Orange ink STILL won't print

Reduce, reduce, reduce!!!! I look for the viscosity of honey depending on mesh (110) but you have to print- flash- print. It really looks like your ink is too thick.
 
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Old December 16th, 2010 Dec 16, 2010 4:33:27 PM -   #17 (permalink)
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Default Re: Orange ink STILL won't print

Also if you get a few good prints then seizing it may be that your shirt pallet is getting too hot and curing the ink in the screen but that usually happens towards the end of a long run.
 
Old December 16th, 2010 Dec 16, 2010 7:08:15 PM -   #18 (permalink)
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Default Re: Orange ink STILL won't print

Yeah we get hammered with snow every year. It's not considered a storm unless we get at least a foot of snow. My sister is actually going to school at Stockton College in Pomona and they have an annual car show down there called Street Wars. Last year I was a vendor and I plan on attending again in April of next year. Right around your neck of the woods! I am definitely a fan of meeting up with a fellow printer!

Oh and yes, I am past morristown. About 30 minutes farther North.

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Reduce, reduce, reduce!!!! I look for the viscosity of honey depending on mesh (110) but you have to print- flash- print. It really looks like your ink is too thick.
Quick question about that. I bought a low cure additive from Ryonet. Will that reduce the ink to a nice consistency? If so, how would I go about mixing that into the ink?
 
 
Old December 16th, 2010 Dec 16, 2010 7:22:40 PM -   #19 (permalink)
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Default Re: Orange ink STILL won't print

That wasn't my quote, but I thought I low cure was for lower tempature or Air dry. Basically, you don't wash the t-shirt for a few weeks and it's cured. Great for College kids who don't wash their clothes that often anyways.

Stockton is about 30 minutes from us. Close to Atlantic City.

Do you attend the ISS show in March? It's at the Atlantic City Convention Center and normally free. It's usually around the last cold weekend of the Winter or beginning spring.

Do you have your own shop or work from home?
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Old December 16th, 2010 Dec 16, 2010 7:44:58 PM -   #20 (permalink)
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Do you attend the ISS show in March? It's at the Atlantic City Convention Center and normally free. It's usually around the last cold weekend of the Winter or beginning spring.

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Yes I have attended the ISS show for the past 2 years and I am already registered for next years show!

Currently I'm working out of my home as I am still in the process of starting up the business. No real need for a commercial space or anything like that just yet.
 
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Default Re: Orange ink STILL won't print

I've not used Ryonet's inks, but I can tell you Union Maxopake Royal Blue is like printing putty through a screen. The last couple of quarts I bought were impossible to use, and I've switched brands. Maybe it's the ink that's simply crappy or got too hot somewhere and is partially cured? You should be able to print just about anything through a 110 mesh.
 
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I've not used Ryonet's inks, but I can tell you Union Maxopake Royal Blue is like printing putty through a screen. The last couple of quarts I bought were impossible to use, and I've switched brands. Maybe it's the ink that's simply crappy or got too hot somewhere and is partially cured? You should be able to print just about anything through a 110 mesh.
That's the part that frustrates me the most. I am using a 110 mesh and still have to do like 5 passes to even get the image to be visable on the shirt before a flash. That eventually results in a huge ink build up on the shirt.

Any brands that you have used that were much easier to use?
 
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Default Re: Orange ink STILL won't print

QCM inks are very easy to print. Plus, they're pthalate-free so they're compliant with the new CPSIA regs that the nazis in Congress are hitting us over the head with.
 
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Default Re: Orange ink STILL won't print

ink build up will happen like in the picture you posted when you print/ flash and then print immediately after flashing. pallet needs to cool down first or your ink will stick. Also mentioned, is that your screen did not shoot out completely. Or you may just be having a hard time clearing your screen. If it keeps happening in the same spot every time, it's because your screen has emulsion residue.
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Default Re: Orange ink STILL won't print

Actually went out for a few drinks with Nick Wood from Ryonet last night. I was telling him about your post. Anyways just mix your reducer straight in. Nick was saying that Ryopaque inks are really thick and should be reduced, thats been my experience with them.
 
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Default Re: Orange ink STILL won't print

Ink too thick? Reduce the viscosity
Clogged in screen? Coarser mesh
Already did both? Check your squeegee angle... should resemble a check-mark angle using the sharp edge (not folded flat) to push ink through
Squeegee have no sharp edge? Get a new squeegee with a higher durometer

I am guarantee you the answer is simple in the end.
 
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Ink too thick? Reduce the viscosity
Clogged in screen? Coarser mesh
Already did both? Check your squeegee angle... should resemble a check-mark angle using the sharp edge (not folded flat) to push ink through
Squeegee have no sharp edge? Get a new squeegee with a higher durometer

I am guarantee you the answer is simple in the end.
When all else fails, drink heavily, then stumble around cursing loudly.
 
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Default Re: Orange ink STILL won't print

I agree with the previous post except for the beer part. Whiskey makes a much better reducer.
 
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Liquid Laxatives work best for Waterbased Ink. Seriously.
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Default Re: Orange ink STILL won't print

try using varsol(paint thinner) dip a rag into it a rub it from both sides, it sounds clogged and probably nothing to do with ink and screen... opaque inks should have no problem going through 110 with little to no reducer.
 
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