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July 22nd, 2015 11:33 AM
ukracer
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymunky
Well done Paul.
You are now an Official Member of the Laser Printed Transfer Club U.K.
I'm glad you are happy with your result.

Phil

Is there any one still around using OKI and magic touch in the UK??
July 22nd, 2015 11:22 AM
ukracer
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Quote:
Originally Posted by REVERENDDUCK
Market tee what kind of heatpress do u use
i use a clamshell and oki c5750 printer ttc 3.1 on 100% cotten shirts
i press at 180 f0r 10 seconds and then the problems start when i peel, most of the ink is left on the paper. I tried higher pressure and temp but its still the same. I phoned magic touch and they told me i need a flat bed press
any ideas

cheers paul
Did you ever get any joy with your 5750 and T shirts.

Plus did ANYONE ever get any joy with using compatibles with an OKI C5750 and T shirt printing??
August 20th, 2010 06:03 AM
[email protected]
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

I have now changed from Inkjet to Laser and have a Konica C253 using magic touch paper gives me fantastic results, even the dark paper (not WOW) gives a great finish, previously i used the Ultragraphics system from Xpres, wouldn't go back now, i still vinyl as well, but i must say im impressed by MT.
August 20th, 2010 05:53 AM
Kellybee
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Market-Tee
Hi phil,
yes the resolution is fine and the images are bright and clear.........With respect to magic paper, I use TTC3.3 for light shirts with the printer set for Bond and OBM 5.6 with the same printer setting for dark mode.
Hi there, can I ask what the Bond and OBM settings are?

I've got a xerox 6110N and it prints everything a hell of a lot darker than it shows on screen! Sometimes purples come out red too. I have to use the palest shade of pink I can find to get a med pink print, and it loos like dirty red instead of pink!!
March 1st, 2010 11:37 AM
bigf00t
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Hmmm... any more info on this problem with layering xpres vinyls? Who else has had problems- and with which particular vinyl?

I've not done much multi-colour/layer stuff but will probably do so eventually.
February 28th, 2010 08:34 PM
Coeurdelion
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Hi Phil

Interested to note that you have had problems layering vinyl. We did a shedload of Ts for a cheerleading group, following the instructions to the letter, and they all peeled (the Ts, not the cheerleaders). I gave a sample back to Xpres for testing and comment at a show recently, which they promptly misplaced. So no feedback there. I'm still having problems with darks - EZ trans, which I think is Neenah, seems to be one of the best . When we opened our retail unit last year, we had horrendous problems with Inkjet Dark, which had worked nicely up to that point. Cost us a lot of money and goodwill and still no proper explanation. The best print I ever did was with Magic Touch for inkjet, which has accidently gone through rigorous washes with my jeans AND in the tumble drier - I can't remember what they said when I got in touch with them - either they no longer do it or you have to buy it in a 20 m roll and I don't really want to commit to that without having a little bit to road test first.

I have tried a friend's laser printer for a couple of darks but the result on the first one was a bit disappointing and the colour profile must have gone wrong for the other because I ended up with a completely green baby - not quite what the mother wanted for the grandfather's gift T shirt!
November 29th, 2009 11:29 AM
funkymunky
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

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Originally Posted by bryan.d
Hi Phil,
if your thinking of upgrading you could switch to chromablast inks (sawgrass). you have to use chromablast paper for white shirts and for dark shirts a inkjet dark paper. the quality is great, especially on white
and your ink costs will be much cheaper.
paper and ink it works out cheaper than laser per print.
Thanks bryan.d, I will do some homework on this

Phil
November 29th, 2009 10:18 AM
bryan.d
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Hi Phil,
if your thinking of upgrading you could switch to chromablast inks (sawgrass). you have to use chromablast paper for white shirts and for dark shirts a inkjet dark paper. the quality is great, especially on white
and your ink costs will be much cheaper.
paper and ink it works out cheaper than laser per print.
October 13th, 2009 09:06 AM
MissEden
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Still on the hunt for a (cheap) laser printer!

Any opinions on this one-
Buy a cheap HP Colour LaserJet CP1217 Colour Laser Printer from PC World.

HP Colour LaserJet CP1217?

How easily can it go wrong? I had a look around a store today and they all had stickers saying "warranty void if used with unauthorised paper"
Is there an easy way to adjust the settings? how will I know what to adjust them to?
August 22nd, 2009 02:39 PM
Lnfortun
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Speaking of mugs. The Imageclip image sheet or red printed sheet can be used for mugs. Have not tried it though. I do have a mug press that I bought a while back. It is still in the box. I was put off doing mugs when I found out that the price of sublimation inks and coated mugs were very costly. I have a box of coated mugs. Not sure if a regular laser paper for hard goods or something like Imageclip image sheet will work on it.

Anybody tried coated mugs with non sublimation ink?

Thanks.
August 22nd, 2009 02:32 PM
Lnfortun
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymunky
Thanks for your input Luis.
It looks like we can get Imageclip papers here in the U.K too From here:A4 PHOTO-TRANS ImageClip
I have read and heard conflicting reviews on these self-weeding papers. The one I knew about here in the U.K was the WOW papers from Magic Touch the price of this stuff alone scared me!
Maybe i'll give this Imageclip a try.

Phil
I have tried WOW 7.1 once. I may have not pressed it right because some of the transfers stayed with opaque paper during first step. The think cracked too after 2 washes.

For the price I don't think I am going to dive in anytime soom.
August 22nd, 2009 01:31 PM
Market-Tee
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Quote:
Originally Posted by funkymunky
Hi Mik,
When you do actually get round to printing your mugs, will you be using a mug press or clamps and an oven? Another idea I have been toying with too

Phil
Hey phil,
Firstly, people do actually bring stuff back to me. I am a regular on the southampton market and as such i have regular customers, i've even had a return or two which i sorted out amicably.
For this reason, i like you steered away from dark transfers until now.
If you like , PM me and i'll send you a couple of sample prints and you can see for yourself what the oki produces.

With respect to the mugs, I am intending to use a mug press as I have to be able to do "while you wait" service.
The only downside to the cl paper is that after pressing you have to bake the mug in an oven to glaze the design on. My answer to this is to tell customers this when they buy one and include simple instructions and let them glaze the mug themselves at home.
The upside of course is that with the cl paper I can use any mug i like, which will reduce costs to me if I can source them.

Finally, you might find that the ultra cut is a bit better for overlaying colours. I have found this since i started using it.
August 22nd, 2009 12:43 PM
funkymunky
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Market-Tee
I have also tried the CL paper for printing on mugs etc and again the results were good but I haven't had a chance to actually press a mug properly yet.
Hi Mik,
When you do actually get round to printing your mugs, will you be using a mug press or clamps and an oven? Another idea I have been toying with too

Phil
August 22nd, 2009 12:25 PM
funkymunky
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lnfortun
Imageclip is a very good product. Both laser and inkjet versions are my transfer of preference. Laser version comes first because laser toner print is more vibrant than inkjet print. Both papers live up to their claims, self weeding. However, the laser version has limitations. Very light color, photo and gradient designs does not work very well with laser version. According to the maker when the toner density is 40% or less the polymer will have a hard time bonding to the toner. So the transferred image will be blotchy. The inkjet version solves those issues.

To keep with the topic of the thread, I like both technology. I prefer laser because it has durable transferred image, vibrant and print fast. The inkjet second because of less vibrancy and tends to clog in the middle of the run. As a matter of fact I have 3 8.5X11 and one 11X17 printers still in boxes just in case of failure.

Both technology has self weeding transfers(Imageclip) so I use both depending on the design to avoid issues that come with the laser version.
Thanks for your input Luis.
It looks like we can get Imageclip papers here in the U.K too From here:A4 PHOTO-TRANS ImageClip
I have read and heard conflicting reviews on these self-weeding papers. The one I knew about here in the U.K was the WOW papers from Magic Touch the price of this stuff alone scared me!
Maybe i'll give this Imageclip a try.

Phil
August 22nd, 2009 12:15 PM
Lnfortun
Re: Inkjet vs Laser Transfers. Any real advantages?

Imageclip is a very good product. Both laser and inkjet versions are my transfer of preference. Laser version comes first because laser toner print is more vibrant than inkjet print. Both papers live up to their claims, self weeding. However, the laser version has limitations. Very light color, photo and gradient designs does not work very well with laser version. According to the maker when the toner density is 40% or less the polymer will have a hard time bonding to the toner. So the transferred image will be blotchy. The inkjet version solves those issues.

To keep with the topic of the thread, I like both technology. I prefer laser because it has durable transferred image, vibrant and print fast. The inkjet second because of less vibrancy and tends to clog in the middle of the run. As a matter of fact I have 3 8.5X11 and one 11X17 printers still in boxes just in case of failure.

Both technology has self weeding transfers(Imageclip) so I use both depending on the design to avoid issues that come with the laser version.
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