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April 27th, 2019 09:14 PM
babydtgwhale
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

Quote:
Originally Posted by 783074
I don't think it was ever advertised as open source/free source! Additionally it was not arduino based! (microchip) Im sure if you posted the info here the TSF members would build there own support network! Or truly give the board design/instruction/code and charge for support only! i understand you cant give support free! you can charge for that! but if your advertising open source boards are included in that right?

hey while your are it about open source can u please upload clue book V3 just so we all know know your talking what your intentions are
June 6th, 2017 11:00 AM
783074
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

RE: questions about Arduino Library "Stepper" https://www.arduino.cc/en/reference/stepper

Lots of stuff on youtube tutorials also, links to the arduino motor shield in links before! However the TB6600 Toshiba driver (links in previous post) Has been well tested and proven.
June 5th, 2017 03:14 PM
abmcdan
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

Quote:
Originally Posted by german1313
All true!! I have traveled that same road! Sooner or later you will realize to combat those issues make it truly free here and everywhere (if its not about profit gain) ! everyone and there brother will be doing it and it will take the margins out.. I had the same issues people profiting off a lot of hard work they didn't do..many people.. its easier pitting thousands against each other and you have fun in the meantime giving something back... this goes way deeper than you think (you are not the primary reason/target regarding me putting this info out, but keep showing up for some reason)
Do tell, at least privately... I don't know of any other Open Source Arduino diy dtg stuff that your comments could be aimed at. LOL
June 5th, 2017 03:06 PM
783074
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

Quote:
Originally Posted by abmcdan
I have no problem with posting some stuff.

The hardest part is keeping it moving forward if it's 100% free. I just don't have extra cash to develop stuff. I feel people benefiting should kick in on it. Very few did when it was voluntary.

Then you have people that use the open source code to develop add ons and they won't share them, they want to sell them or keep for their own use because they spent "20" hard hours to develop it. LOL
All true!! I have traveled that same road! Sooner or later you will realize to combat those issues make it truly free here and everywhere (if its not about profit gain) ! everyone and there brother will be doing it and it will take the margins out.. I had the same issues people profiting off a lot of hard work they didn't do..many people.. its easier pitting thousands against each other and you have fun in the meantime giving something back... this goes way deeper than you think (you are not the primary reason regarding me putting this info out, but keep showing up for some reason)
June 5th, 2017 03:04 PM
abmcdan
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

Quote:
Originally Posted by german1313
I think TSF would have no issue and certainly not git hub either. You are giving free stuff out=no issue (this is the diy section!) Open source is open source including the board design... maybe rethink how you advertise or rename it..if you don't want to open source it all, just a suggestion. Again kudos for posting free info...I hope you continue to post here in the diy section on this system! It would help alot of people of the past and future builders!
I guess I look at it different...

Full source code is available along with full information to run a DIY DTG with off the shelf components.

That's pretty open source.

If I would've open sourced all the hardware designs the project wouldn't have progressed and most of the hardware wouldn't even exist.

You have to strike the balance between the 100% free dream and actually being able to develop something worth having.
June 5th, 2017 02:59 PM
abmcdan
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

Quote:
Originally Posted by german1313
I suggest you open a thread to help others HERE with your free info on the arduino control systems that doesn't require a private sign in to a private site.. just a suggestion! Keep up the good work on getting free arduino control systems out for dtg! its cool stuff Maybe compile the free info and post it to a thread, good way of giving back!
I have no problem with posting some stuff.

The hardest part is keeping it moving forward if it's 100% free. I just don't have extra cash to develop stuff. I feel people benefiting should kick in on it. Very few did when it was voluntary.

Then you have people that use the open source code to develop add ons and they won't share them, they want to sell them or keep for their own use because they spent "20" hard hours to develop it. LOL
June 5th, 2017 02:56 PM
783074
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

Quote:
Originally Posted by abmcdan
Before I started the website I asked admin here is I could post full code and they gave me a maybe but they'd have to see it all posted first. I wasn't going to risk all of that time.

I then went to github.com and maybe I'm dumb but it didn't seem to be conducive to a large project that needs videos and tutorials along with conversation.


I think you've got the wrong impression of what I'm doing. The membership fee was instituted 6 months into getting going because without funding development was going to stop. I couldn't continue footing the bill.

Anything being sold is significantly cheaper than other options and priced for a minimal profit once development costs are figured in. If demand increases and I can mass produce the savings will be passed on.

I don't give the board design because it's not worth it to the 1 board DIY guy to have boards made and ship in all of the parts. So in the end it would only help resellers and they can pay for their own R&D instead of getting it free off of me.
I think TSF would have no issue and certainly not git hub either. You are giving free stuff out=no issue (this is the diy section!) Open source is open source including the board design... maybe rethink how you advertise or rename it..if you don't want to open source it all, just a suggestion. Again kudos for posting free info...I hope you continue to post here in the diy section on this system! It would help alot of people of the past and future builders!
June 5th, 2017 02:50 PM
abmcdan
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

Quote:
Originally Posted by german1313
I have not had a chance to read thru what you posted regarding "the free instruction with separate parts" However if it was intended to be truly free this is exactly where it should be posted on the diy dtg site of TSF or the like github etc. etc. especially arduino based platforms,(kinda goes hand in hand) It seems something that has a free lure always has a monetized link involved with many sites.

Regardless its good to see (if the info is valid and complete) this being posted for free ("if truly being marketed as "open source") In reality it should include the design files for the all in one, that would prove its not a monetize lure site!

That said kudos for posting free info. I suggest you open a thread to help others HERE with your free info on the arduino control systems that doesn't require a private sign in to a private site.. just a suggestion! Keep up the good work on getting free arduino control systems out for dtg! its cool stuff Maybe compile the free info and post it to a thread, good way of giving back!
Before I started the website I asked admin here is I could post full code and they gave me a maybe but they'd have to see it all posted first. I wasn't going to risk all of that time.

I then went to github.com and maybe I'm dumb but it didn't seem to be conducive to a large project that needs videos and tutorials along with conversation.


I think you've got the wrong impression of what I'm doing. The membership fee was instituted 6 months into getting going because without funding development was going to stop. I couldn't continue footing the bill.

Anything being sold is significantly cheaper than other options and priced for a minimal profit once development costs are figured in. If demand increases and I can mass produce the savings will be passed on.

I don't give the board design because it's not worth it to the 1 board DIY guy to have boards made and ship in all of the parts. So in the end it would only help resellers and they can pay for their own R&D instead of getting it free off of me.
June 5th, 2017 02:47 PM
783074
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

Quote:
Originally Posted by abmcdan
$300 for an All in One board, open source code and build support is actually cheap. The build support alone is worth more than the $300.

I'd sell them cheaper if so much support time wasn't required.

You know that, You and Tyler sold $799 closed source boards.
I don't think it was ever advertised as open source/free source! Additionally it was not arduino based! (microchip) Im sure if you posted the info here the TSF members would build there own support network! Or truly give the board design/instruction/code and charge for support only! i understand you cant give support free! you can charge for that! but if your advertising open source boards are included in that right?
June 5th, 2017 02:43 PM
783074
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

Quote:
Originally Posted by abmcdan
You are correct it's very affordable and easy to piece together the control system with off the shelf Arduino Uno, Power supply, and a TB6600 motor driver. It achieves exactly what the All in one boards do with a little effort.

OpenDTG.com has all of this information to build a system without using a custom proprietary board.

Here is connecting an Arduino to the epson by soldering: Arduino Setup and Connecting to Epson printer - Open DTG - Build your own Direct to Garment Printer

Wiring stepper motor driver: Wiring stepper motor driver and power supply with Arduino - Open DTG - Build your own Direct to Garment Printer

(These link require a free signup to see the attachments)


The pinout for OpenDTG Arduino code is:

#define encoderA 3 // Encoder input from epson printer
#define encoderB 2 // Encoder input from epson printer

#define inBtn 4 // Momentary push button to send the Platen to the Back / Home position - Other switch wire goes to Arduino Ground
#define outBtn 5 // Momentary push button to eject the platen to the front position - Other switch wire goes to Arduino Ground
#define passBtn 6 // Automatic 2 pass Rocker style switch - Other switch wire goes to Arduino Ground

#define peSignal 16 // Write HIGH or LOW - Hardware limits voltage output to 3v to protect Epson

#define backStop 7 // Back or Home position. This is the rear limit switch used to stop the platen at the back of your machine.

#define asfSignal 17 // Sends HIGH or LOW to Epson to similate ASF sensor. Hardware limits voltage to 3v to protect Epson
#define MotorSen1 18 // Used to sense when the ASF motor is moving via an component on the board.
#define MotorSen2 15 // Used to sense when the ASF motor is moving via an component on the board.

#define powerLED 19


//Setup for TB6600 Stepper Driver
#define motorEnable 14 // Not used yet: Some motor drivers require a HIGH signal to enable.
#define motorDirection 8 // Wire to motor driver direction pin
#define motorStep 9 // Wire to motor driver Step / Pulse pin

#define motorM1 11 // M1, M2, M3 set the microstepping of the driver
#define motorM2 12
#define motorM3 13

#define motorReset 10
#define motorTQ 15


You are correct we don't give out the full design files on hardware at OpenDTG.com but I also make sure that the code is compatible with off the shelf components so there is NO lock in to buy our boards. 99% of people wouldn't have a use for the design files.

Members also have access to DXF files to cut their own base parts. Some people have CNC machines but others have used laser cutters and plastic.
I have not had a chance to read thru what you posted regarding "the free instruction with separate parts" However if it was intended to be truly free this is exactly where it should be posted on the diy dtg site of TSF or the like github etc. etc. especially arduino based platforms,(kinda goes hand in hand) It seems something that has a free lure always has a monetized link involved with many sites.

Regardless its good to see (if the info is valid and complete) this being posted for free ("if truly being marketed as "open source") In reality it should include the design files for the all in one, that would prove its not a monetize lure site!

That said kudos for posting free info. I suggest you open a thread to help others HERE with your free info on the arduino control systems that doesn't require a private sign in to a private site.. just a suggestion! Keep up the good work on getting free arduino control systems out for dtg! its cool stuff Maybe compile the free info and post it to a thread, good way of giving back!
June 5th, 2017 02:38 PM
abmcdan
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

Quote:
Originally Posted by german1313
There are people selling all in one "Arduino" boards for dtg controllers @ super high markup pricing!
$300 for an All in One board, open source code and build support is actually cheap. The build support alone is worth more than the $300.

I'd sell them cheaper if so much support time wasn't required.

You know that, You and Tyler sold $799 closed source boards.
June 5th, 2017 02:06 PM
abmcdan
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

Quote:
Originally Posted by german1313
Had a few PM,s suggesting use of existing arduino motor shields! Didn't put much thought into that...but yeah ... That is another option and interesting approach.. links below ..one with instruction on the tb6600 driver (Toshiba tb6600)

There are people selling all in one "Arduino" boards for dtg controllers @ super high markup pricing! you can have the same setup easily by having the separate components Arduino/toshiba tb6600 driver! parts are listed in the previous links! Find the pinout on those expensive boards that are open source and combine your own for a fraction of the cost! code is free apparently? well under 100 dollars with these components separately and your own wiring!

This is a very cost effective method for those looking to diy the control system! Additionally with the components separate easy to replace or repair! you will need a 12volt power supply which is easier than pulling from the epson power supply (just power of the same connection) Cant wait to see what folks come up with on this!

https://www.arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoMotorShieldR3

Monster Motor Controller Shield For Arduino (14A, 5.5-16V) - RobotShop


Toshiba TB6600HG | ZYLtech Engineering LLC - Zyltech Engineering LLC | Affordable 3D printer, laser engraver and CNC hardware and accessories


vid on the toshiba tb6600 https://youtu.be/JjbCv3EOp7M

You are correct it's very affordable and easy to piece together the control system with off the shelf Arduino Uno, Power supply, and a TB6600 motor driver. It achieves exactly what the All in one boards do with a little effort.

OpenDTG.com has all of this information to build a system without using a custom proprietary board.

Here is connecting an Arduino to the epson by soldering: Arduino Setup and Connecting to Epson printer - Open DTG - Build your own Direct to Garment Printer

Wiring stepper motor driver: Wiring stepper motor driver and power supply with Arduino - Open DTG - Build your own Direct to Garment Printer

(These link require a free signup to see the attachments)


The pinout for OpenDTG Arduino code is:

#define encoderA 3 // Encoder input from epson printer
#define encoderB 2 // Encoder input from epson printer

#define inBtn 4 // Momentary push button to send the Platen to the Back / Home position - Other switch wire goes to Arduino Ground
#define outBtn 5 // Momentary push button to eject the platen to the front position - Other switch wire goes to Arduino Ground
#define passBtn 6 // Automatic 2 pass Rocker style switch - Other switch wire goes to Arduino Ground

#define peSignal 16 // Write HIGH or LOW - Hardware limits voltage output to 3v to protect Epson

#define backStop 7 // Back or Home position. This is the rear limit switch used to stop the platen at the back of your machine.

#define asfSignal 17 // Sends HIGH or LOW to Epson to similate ASF sensor. Hardware limits voltage to 3v to protect Epson
#define MotorSen1 18 // Used to sense when the ASF motor is moving via an component on the board.
#define MotorSen2 15 // Used to sense when the ASF motor is moving via an component on the board.

#define powerLED 19


//Setup for TB6600 Stepper Driver
#define motorEnable 14 // Not used yet: Some motor drivers require a HIGH signal to enable.
#define motorDirection 8 // Wire to motor driver direction pin
#define motorStep 9 // Wire to motor driver Step / Pulse pin

#define motorM1 11 // M1, M2, M3 set the microstepping of the driver
#define motorM2 12
#define motorM3 13

#define motorReset 10
#define motorTQ 15


You are correct we don't give out the full design files on hardware at OpenDTG.com but I also make sure that the code is compatible with off the shelf components so there is NO lock in to buy our boards. 99% of people wouldn't have a use for the design files.

Members also have access to DXF files to cut their own base parts. Some people have CNC machines but others have used laser cutters and plastic.
June 5th, 2017 01:07 PM
783074
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

Had a few PM,s suggesting use of existing arduino motor shields! Didn't put much thought into that...but yeah ... That is another option and interesting approach.. links below ..one with instruction on the tb6600 driver (Toshiba tb6600)

There are people selling all in one "Arduino" boards for dtg controllers @ super high markup pricing! you can have the same setup easily by having the separate components Arduino/toshiba tb6600 driver! parts are listed in the previous links! Find the pinout on those expensive boards that are open source and combine your own for a fraction of the cost! code is free apparently? well under 100 dollars with these components separately and your own wiring!

This is a very cost effective method for those looking to diy the control system! Additionally with the components separate easy to replace or repair! you will need a 12volt power supply which is easier than pulling from the epson power supply (just power of the same connection) Cant wait to see what folks come up with on this!

https://www.arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoMotorShieldR3

Monster Motor Controller Shield For Arduino (14A, 5.5-16V) - RobotShop


Toshiba TB6600HG | ZYLtech Engineering LLC - Zyltech Engineering LLC | Affordable 3D printer, laser engraver and CNC hardware and accessories


vid on the toshiba tb6600 https://youtu.be/JjbCv3EOp7M
June 4th, 2017 06:39 AM
seacookie
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

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OMG! This again? The heck with all you guys.

Close the damn thread.
What is wrong with this thread?
June 4th, 2017 06:22 AM
34Ford
Re: Mission accomplished "license to thrill"

OMG! This again? The heck with all you guys.

Close the damn thread.
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