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July 12th, 2015 09:53 AM
Jinxplay
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

Does this costs are still true, i mean since 2011 does brother has lower his ink prices or are still the same?? , im looking at a 782 at a good price but ink costs seems to be way to high
February 14th, 2011 08:50 AM
loloxa
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

Quote:
Originally Posted by WholesalePrint
Compared to who? Cause The kornits are priced out of this world and printzilla did a print test and if I remember even though the cost per liter was less on the dupont it still ended up costing more than the brother. I could be mistaken.
Did you read my previous post carefully? I guess not and find myself repeating what I said once more.

Quote:
Originally Posted by loloxa
3 times more expensive*
Most expensive inks.

*compared to a basic single Epson machine.
"*compared to a basic single Epson machine."

DTG K3 , Neoflex, Mod 1, etc most go for ( or close to ) 17.000 x 3 = 51.000 close enough to the 50.000 the 782 goes for.

Ink cost: Printzilla already crunched out the numbers for a certain print in this post. But even though prints might be cheaper, inks are not, so my statement stands.

I would like to say that I have come to the conclusion that all this back and forth between brands is a waste of time, an mostly when apples are compared to oranges, since either of the inks for the brother, kornit or epson printers can't be compared to each other using the same hardware, and every machine has happy costumers making money with it, so I think calling one brand lesser than the other is counterproductive because all brands have something that might look bad in somebodies eyes, some might argue that in the end all are printers and have a common denominator, but as oranges an apples have different juices so do this machines, let's say all fruits are fruits but certainly no all are equal, I just don't see how calling apples better than pineapples makes any sense. A happy costumer means a good working machine, that is good enough for me, let's just keep the facts up and whoever needs the info will know where to look, and no try to waste time deciphering between philosophy and physics.
February 13th, 2011 09:00 AM
WholesalePrint
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

Quote:
3 times more expensive*
Most expensive inks.
Compared to who? Cause The kornits are priced out of this world and printzilla did a print test and if I remember even though the cost per liter was less on the dupont it still ended up costing more than the brother. I could be mistaken.
February 6th, 2011 09:37 PM
loloxa
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

An open letter to future readers.

There might be many reasons to why you read threads like this. Some of you might be looking to inform yourselves before considering a new purchase, some may be interested in knowing where the technology is going in the different brands of machinery, or just simple curiosity.

Whichever reason, any time spent reading looking for information is well served when that info is supported by facts, whenever you find someone asking for faith on their experiences beyond any proofs that they can profess, be very skeptical, because trust is achieved and unless there is a hidden interest, it is never to be asked for.

So be wary of people who say "trust me", and just do not offer ANY proof to their claims.

I'm a printer, not a machine seller, and have no interest in people buying this machine, but I also believe that forums like this offer an oportunity for people to get a feel whitout having to buy, and I try to give back what I can, since I benefited from the information that lies herein at some point.

I believe in freedom of speech but not in the free circulation of ignorance and defamation, and although some times angrily ( because I'm stunned to read certain things) waste my time typing in here, I always try t back my asertions with facts, which can be wrong, although I try my best to 2ble check.

All that said, I'll give you a final tip, before you consider any opinion put forward in forums like this, consider the posters previous posts, usually that will give you a greater picture of where the interest lies, and the true experience behind the information shared. I for one share more than benefit from this side of the forum, but the reason I kept at it is because I felt that at one point it was the other way around, and felt that it would be selfish no to give something back.

A closing argument:

IMO The 782 has strong points:
The easiest workflow of all dtgs.(no rip)
2 plattens and 2 sets of independent heads for faster printing.
The shortest curing time for preteat and inks by a factor of 6*.
Great Build quality.

And weak points:
Lowest resolution by a factor of 2*
3 times more expensive*
Most expensive inks.
Only one choice of driver/RIP.
It's big.

*compared to a basic single Epson machine.

If you search the forums for my posts or printzillas on the 782 you will find some more numbers and info on the pros and cons of this machine, I for one am getting tired of repeatting myself.
February 6th, 2011 05:30 PM
OATMEAL
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

Quote:
Originally Posted by loloxa
Not true, I personally have printed only 3000 shirts in 6 months at 23$(single units) a tee grossing an average of 10$ per tee, no exactly being eaten alive here, that includes tee and pretreat.


Also not true, Max ink lay at 5+3 full 14x16 inches is 30cc in white, and if you add color, the white usage goes down, exemplified in the posted images at the bottom, that comprises a full 16x14 square pooling ( as in you could swim in it) with white, how can you reach 14$ if the price per cc on white is 60cents and on colors .68cents ( without any bulk savings, plain regular priced carts), to reach your 14$ in ink cost you would have to be printing 20cc of ink,and I dear anyone with a DTG to post a job with 20cc's of ink, brother, epson, kornit whoever, not cost but CC's, not to talk about the impracticality of such print: pools of white ( because at 5+3 prints look awful, and the tee can only take so much).

A consistent 16 cc of white or 10 cc of white plus 4 cc of color is unheard off in the course of my 2 years with brother printers. And a full preteated tee (16x19in) goes for .30 cents

Another allegory: a Prius MPg is around 40 my cousin takes it for a drifting session and he goes down to 10, is that a real scenario? I think not, is the Prius a car to go drifting? certainly not.

So if you are doing huge ink lays with maximum coverage, I have no idea why didn't you go whit a screenprinting auto press? didn't you do your homework before giving away your money? Since is the second time I throw that advice your way, I somehow do not feel sorry for you.


Want to fix registration? start with glue on the platten ( spray,double tape, I don't have a preference), I agree that brother could do a better job telling people about how to prepare for optimal registration, and they might have some way to go until it is a streamlined process, but it has become a 2% scenario for me, so show some samples of problems and we might know from experience how to adress them, and if it is a legitimate complain call brother, I did.


I'm I supposed to take your accusations seriously? what axe are you grinding here? against kobe beef and sushi? against 1st class tickets? surely against brother, but not exactly making sense are we? I hope you start calling all companies who make a profit greedy that'll show some coherence in your thought process.

Except you, not a single 782 owner in this forum ( few but some) has seen any breaking down occurring, so we'll discuss this when the time comes, if it does ( I'm certain I'll have to replace 8 heads and probably tubes at a cost of around 10K some day, but plenty of users with 100K prints on their 541 and still going strong.) Your complains about cost for parts might be legitimate but buried in all this bashing it just looks like whining, and remember all is made in japan, with their wages ans standards you can buy made in china with the social cost inherent to it. I'm not a big guy, only buying 4 carts of white every 2 months and color every 3, and they are nice to me, they even sent a complimentary blue cartridge after we were having issues whit the blue head, I get free next day shipping straight from their european central in germany, so the inks are fresher than ice, they don't tuck me in bed or wake me up with a Breakfast Juice, but I can't complain.
broken printer = complaints.
bad customer service = complaints.
i literally can not get service from my broker or brother most of the time.
people considering buying these machines need to hear all sides of the story.
i offer only honest feedback.
you have no business even commenting on something you're so distant from = reality.
i received a legitimately broken 782 that would not register and it took them months to create a custom firmware which finally resolved the issue. glue? haha. i'm still laughing.

you also don't get an obvious joke.

brother obviously make mistakes which is why they're now reducing the cost of ink and offering 0% financing.

the point is that $3 per shirt is NOT reality for ink cost with this printer.
January 26th, 2011 06:03 AM
loloxa
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

Quote:
Originally Posted by OATMEAL
I bought a 782 last December, had it a year now. Not exactly thrilled.
You WISH the cost was only $3.00 a shirt..
$3.00 a shirt, give me a break, is that what they're telling people now?
The cost of white ink will eat you alive unless you're doing huge volume, in which case
you don't NEED the savings anyway (referring to the new bulk white ink system which saves over 30% on white ink cost).
Not true, I personally have printed only 3000 shirts in 6 months at 23$(single units) a tee grossing an average of 10$ per tee, no exactly being eaten alive here, that includes tee and pretreat.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OATMEAL
The raw ink cost with the 782 can EASILY reach $10 or more per shirt. That's YOUR cost.
Why is this not discussed at the trade show? Why don't they mention this in their low budget commercials? It can get up to $12-14. That's uncommon, but EASY to do. Every piece of art is different and the price will change drastically based on shirt color, the size of print, and quality you want to achieve. If you actually want the shirt to look good (imagine that) you need to put down MORE white and maybe (often) a 2ND PASS OF WHITE! Take your fantasy $3.00 shirt cost and throw it out the window. Whoever told you that was a salesman. In the real world, printing real art, it's higher.
Don't forget to add the cost of the pre-treat either!

Also not true, Max ink lay at 5+3 full 14x16 inches is 30cc in white, and if you add color, the white usage goes down, exemplified in the posted images at the bottom, that comprises a full 16x14 square pooling ( as in you could swim in it) with white, how can you reach 14$ if the price per cc on white is 60cents and on colors .68cents ( without any bulk savings, plain regular priced carts), to reach your 14$ in ink cost you would have to be printing 20cc of ink,and I dear anyone with a DTG to post a job with 20cc's of ink, brother, epson, kornit whoever, not cost but CC's, not to talk about the impracticality of such print: pools of white ( because at 5+3 prints look awful, and the tee can only take so much).

A consistent 16 cc of white or 10 cc of white plus 4 cc of color is unheard off in the course of my 2 years with brother printers. And a full preteated tee (16x19in) goes for .30 cents

Another allegory: a Prius MPg is around 40 my cousin takes it for a drifting session and he goes down to 10, is that a real scenario? I think not, is the Prius a car to go drifting? certainly not.

So if you are doing huge ink lays with maximum coverage, I have no idea why didn't you go whit a screenprinting auto press? didn't you do your homework before giving away your money? Since is the second time I throw that advice your way, I somehow do not feel sorry for you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OATMEAL
The first lesson, for me, was that the only way to make actual money is retail shirt sales ($15.00 per shirt and up). This explains why no one is buying these printers. There's a lot of financially smart people out there, apparently. I was not one of them. I bought this 782 in a hurry. Should not have.
In a hurry? its called IMPULSIVE BUYING, never a good thing to fall for.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OATMEAL
I can't even tell you now many surprises there were after buying it. I felt like I just bought a fancy car from an A-HOLE dealer who hid a bunch of info (lied). I'm not saying that's what happened, that's how I felt.
feelings sometimes get in the way of reasoning, breathing helps.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OATMEAL
Trying to make money doing wholesale quantity based runs is a waste of time unless it's running constantly, you have amazing connections/referrals or have some unique profitable nitch. Trying to compete with the screen print world is a joke. I know a guy with a Kornit running practically non stop wholesale and he's lucky if he breaks even, no pun intended.
What would you consider wholesale? 1000 10.000 1.000.000? This is about printing t-shirts not about owning printers, and that is where I see many people failing. You can buy a printer and have a clear direction in your head and make it, like a small retailer shifting from ink jet transfers to dtg and doing away with the paper, but anyone who thinks that I'll buy the machine and jobs will rain just because I can print them, and print them all, is utter delusional. I'll use an allegory here:

You are a professional snow plower, and you take jobs from highways to driveways , would you use a 100 ton snowplower on my driveway? HOPE NOT, as I hope I don't see you doing highways with a shovel. AKA: certain jobs require certain tools, is up to the mastery of the operator to know which to use.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OATMEAL
If I could go back in time, I would not have bought the 782. It's been highly problematic too...
I don't think it's ever gone a month without issues. When it was brand new, it had registration problems, and it took Brother 3 months to fix it. They were not apologetic, they were like "stop complaining"... "user error"..
Brother loves to call everything "user error". Don't even get me started on the "Bill & Teds 2" Builders Emporium home-made quality Lawson pretreat machine which I've had for 6 months and has so many problems. $6000 for a gigantic pile of crap that can be bought at Home Depot.
Want to fix registration? start with glue on the platten ( spray,double tape, I don't have a preference), I agree that brother could do a better job telling people about how to prepare for optimal registration, and they might have some way to go until it is a streamlined process, but it has become a 2% scenario for me, so show some samples of problems and we might know from experience how to adress them, and if it is a legitimate complain call brother, I did.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OATMEAL
I will speak highly of the print quality when the machine works and is not acting funny. I can't speak too highly of Brother or the experience of owning a 782 though after buying this machine. Just another greedy corporation. There's a lot of kobe beef and sushi that needs to be paid for in Japan. Lots of first class international airfare for executives that this white ink needs to pay for.
I'm I supposed to take your accusations seriously? what axe are you grinding here? against kobe beef and sushi? against 1st class tickets? surely against brother, but not exactly making sense are we? I hope you start calling all companies who make a profit greedy that'll show some coherence in your thought process.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OATMEAL
I work with very high end products in another field of business (t-shirts don't pay the bills) and that's what frustrates me so much about these t-shirt printers, pretreaters, etc. When you compare them to the products from other industries I work with, they are JUNK!!!!!!!!!!! it's hard to work in an arena where craftsmanship actually means something, and then have to go spend $6000 on a pretreater which should cost $500 and NOT be pissed off. Brother charges $40 for a piece of plastic and $100 for a piece of rubber. They're worse than Porsche. There's a gigantic retail chain based in So Cal that prints their own shirts, they get special treatment from Brother. When their 782 broke (and yours will too), they got an instant replacement. I wasn't so lucky. Brother only cares about the big guy.
Except you, not a single 782 owner in this forum ( few but some) has seen any breaking down occurring, so we'll discuss this when the time comes, if it does ( I'm certain I'll have to replace 8 heads and probably tubes at a cost of around 10K some day, but plenty of users with 100K prints on their 541 and still going strong.) Your complains about cost for parts might be legitimate but buried in all this bashing it just looks like whining, and remember all is made in japan, with their wages ans standards you can buy made in china with the social cost inherent to it. I'm not a big guy, only buying 4 carts of white every 2 months and color every 3, and they are nice to me, they even sent a complimentary blue cartridge after we were having issues whit the blue head, I get free next day shipping straight from their european central in germany, so the inks are fresher than ice, they don't tuck me in bed or wake me up with a Breakfast Juice, but I can't complain.

Quote:
Originally Posted by OATMEAL
The name "Brother" is misleading. Brother has always had an absolutely terrible reputation with printers and horrible customer service. I only have 20 years of experience with Brother printers. I'm not saying these garment printers are junk, they are the only brand I would even consider, but that in itself is just sad. "Brother" does not have a good reputation. I don't say this out of spite, it's true, and I've always known it. This white ink thing with Brother could've been done so much better and they would've sold way more units. Now they're desperate for sales. I think the pricing is off and they're overly greedy.
The name "OATMEAL" is misleading. OATMEAL has always had an absolutely terrible reputation with posts and horrible writing skills. I only have 3 months of experience with OATMEALS posts. I'm not saying these posts are junk, they are posted on the brother forum so it is only natural that we read them, but that in itself is just sad. "OATMEAL" does not have a good reputation. I don't say this out of spite, it's true, and I've always known it. This bashing thing with Brother could've been done so much better and he would've got more thanks you's. Now he is desperate for attention. I think the reasoning is off and he is overly ........ get the point already.

I'm out.
January 17th, 2011 10:32 PM
OATMEAL
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmfelder
So, the GT-728 is $55,000 or more. If it's true that dark shirts are, on average, $3/shirt, it seems priced way above the competition.
another point, the printer is $55K, the heat press is $5K, the cheap pretreat machine is over $5K and a conveyor would be over $10K. don't forget to add up everything, and then you can add in tax & labor, shipping etc.
January 17th, 2011 10:32 PM
WholesalePrint
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

Funny off of this site alone we gained half a dozen new consistant customers. Today before noon we had 402 prints come in today in which we beat out screen printers. I have the orders to prove it.
January 17th, 2011 10:26 PM
WholesalePrint
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

We do wholesale and retail and do well. Interesting you feel that way.
January 17th, 2011 10:15 PM
OATMEAL
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

I bought a 782 last December, had it a year now. Not exactly thrilled.
You WISH the cost was only $3.00 a shirt..
$3.00 a shirt, give me a break, is that what they're telling people now?
The cost of white ink will eat you alive unless you're doing huge volume, in which case
you don't NEED the savings anyway (referring to the new bulk white ink system which saves over 30% on white ink cost).

The raw ink cost with the 782 can EASILY reach $10 or more per shirt. That's YOUR cost.
Why is this not discussed at the trade show? Why don't they mention this in their low budget commercials? It can get up to $12-14. That's uncommon, but EASY to do. Every piece of art is different and the price will change drastically based on shirt color, the size of print, and quality you want to achieve. If you actually want the shirt to look good (imagine that) you need to put down MORE white and maybe (often) a 2ND PASS OF WHITE! Take your fantasy $3.00 shirt cost and throw it out the window. Whoever told you that was a salesman. In the real world, printing real art, it's higher.
Don't forget to add the cost of the pre-treat either!

The first lesson, for me, was that the only way to make actual money is retail shirt sales ($15.00 per shirt and up). This explains why no one is buying these printers. There's a lot of financially smart people out there, apparently. I was not one of them. I bought this 782 in a hurry. Should not have.

I can't even tell you now many surprises there were after buying it. I felt like I just bought a fancy car from an A-HOLE dealer who hid a bunch of info (lied). I'm not saying that's what happened, that's how I felt.

Trying to make money doing wholesale quantity based runs is a waste of time unless it's running constantly, you have amazing connections/referrals or have some unique profitable nitch. Trying to compete with the screen print world is a joke. I know a guy with a Kornit running practically non stop wholesale and he's lucky if he breaks even, no pun intended.

If I could go back in time, I would not have bought the 782. It's been highly problematic too...
I don't think it's ever gone a month without issues. When it was brand new, it had registration problems, and it took Brother 3 months to fix it. They were not apologetic, they were like "stop complaining"... "user error"..
Brother loves to call everything "user error". Don't even get me started on the "Bill & Teds 2" Builders Emporium home-made quality Lawson pretreat machine which I've had for 6 months and has so many problems. $6000 for a gigantic pile of crap that can be bought at Home Depot.

I will speak highly of the print quality when the machine works and is not acting funny. I can't speak too highly of Brother or the experience of owning a 782 though after buying this machine. Just another greedy corporation. There's a lot of kobe beef and sushi that needs to be paid for in Japan. Lots of first class international airfare for executives that this white ink needs to pay for.

I work with very high end products in another field of business (t-shirts don't pay the bills) and that's what frustrates me so much about these t-shirt printers, pretreaters, etc. When you compare them to the products from other industries I work with, they are JUNK!!!!!!!!!!! it's hard to work in an arena where craftsmanship actually means something, and then have to go spend $6000 on a pretreater which should cost $500 and NOT be pissed off. Brother charges $40 for a piece of plastic and $100 for a piece of rubber. They're worse than Porsche. There's a gigantic retail chain based in So Cal that prints their own shirts, they get special treatment from Brother. When their 782 broke (and yours will too), they got an instant replacement. I wasn't so lucky. Brother only cares about the big guy.

The name "Brother" is misleading. Brother has always had an absolutely terrible reputation with printers and horrible customer service. I only have 20 years of experience with Brother printers. I'm not saying these garment printers are junk, they are the only brand I would even consider, but that in itself is just sad. "Brother" does not have a good reputation. I don't say this out of spite, it's true, and I've always known it. This white ink thing with Brother could've been done so much better and they would've sold way more units. Now they're desperate for sales. I think the pricing is off and they're overly greedy.
November 24th, 2010 11:38 AM
loloxa
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

I'm late to the party and I will contribute this:

Topic of this thread:At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?, NO, because some prints are .10˘ and others 6$, mostly fall in the 1.80˘ realm, although you can print 12$ of ink if you wanted. SO at 12$ a shirt this machine is expensive at 3$ ( 10in x10in ) a pop turning 40 tees and hour, NO.

Inks: I did leave a glass of ink to dry, and what I have right now after 2 moths is a smudge of ink pigment TiO2 and the ink binder that after applying it by brush to a tee and drying it I realize is what makes the white ink so elastic, it feels almost like some sort of Varnish on the fibers . Someone in another post was comparing different epson inks, all the samples dried up and looked nothing like what I have, definitely IMO, the binder for the brother inks are thick and almost plastic like, and might be a factor on washability and hand.

Speed: I don't have a 4880 to try but my older Epson3000 prints a 11x17 at 720 slower than I can print 2 full platen 16x14 tees ( under 5min, White"3"+ Highlight"0"+CMYK), and I bet Printzilla would know which machines can print faster he has owned both brands.

I'm sure a 360x360 print would be blazing fast,if we can agree to overlook the print and just time the travelling platen, wait, we print tees here not travelling platens.

Also In the matter of speed: If you really want to have a David Vs Goliath comparison, with no gimmicks this machine has 2 platens can print the underbase while the other head prints the color, so let's do a 4 tee print comparison, even though DIY redundant machines could do the work, this would no longer be a david vs goliath but 3 or 4 davids, it would still be cheaper to use 4 DIY's than one 782, but not if you where to buy any other 3 or 4 supported epson model printer.

Quality: German13 posted a picture of his resulting print, and maybe Printzilla could too if he has the time, for the sake of comparison. I'm very well aware that this is a DIY project, but It feels wrong not to hold his prints to the same standards that we have been holding all the prints which we have examined. Sorry to say but this is a very amateurish looking print, no to say plain dead awful: artifacts, banding, ghost lines, should I continue? I'm all for the epson's quality, but this is not it, the shark print posted in this thread is unsellable, period.German13 said that his wife was selling them well and with no complaints, but being able to sell something does not infer the quality of the product, just that the price was right according to the client's expectations.

Anajet references: The video being referenced int his thread, does not show the finished product ( for a reason) and contains claims that are completely false. Why are we talking about that video at all? You could use the mod2 video doing the rounds on the net, that IS some serious printing.

Cost: A DIY can have a Return On Investment so fast that you'll be in profit before you can say "be right back". So I don't know why we have to try and match the 782 speed to illustrate how cost effective this machine is, IT JUST IS. DoItYourself, as german13 claims, anyone could, so I really think the match is over, I have to sell 5000 Tees at 10$ profit just to recoup the cost of the machine, while this project will be braking even at 150, you see, match over by 4850 Tees.

Build quality: My grey paper weight is heavier than yours, and If sold for scrap metal I might make a buck or two.

my 5.200.000.02˘ and I'll go open my own thread now, thanks.

regards
November 24th, 2010 11:34 AM
kornitguy
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Belquette
With all due respect all of these figures are based on a per liter cost of $280.00 per liter, that's the cost per liter on a single bag.

Anyone that prints in high volume utilizing multiple mod1 (or any) printers realize a cost per liter much less then what these calculations are based around.
This changes the perspectives on cost per print and daily output that can be achieved.
Multitasking small cells can produce production outputs that are impossible to achieve on any single or multi-platform machine to date.

It all comes down to what the end user feels comfortable using.
Every one has a passion towards what they own and if it's works for them that's all that matters at the end of the day.

I am only showing the effect of a $.25 per print difference over different volumes.

It's one big complex math problem that varies based on time to amortize the purchase price and total prints over that time.

If you want to go into cost for preventive maintenance and unexpected service we can add that in too. Though I assume that with the following that these two machines have those two figures are probably equally low.
November 24th, 2010 11:15 AM
Belquette
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

Quote:
Epson - 9.02ml of white ink @ .28 per ml = $2.52 1.55ml of cmyk @.28ml = $0.43 Total = $2.95
With all due respect all of these figures are based on a per liter cost of $280.00 per liter, that's the cost per liter on a single bag.

Quote:
Assuming that there really is a $.25 difference in favor of the Brother 782 then you'd be spending $2000-$2500 more to own the Mod1 per day. So that $35000 difference would disappear in 14-17.5 days. After 14-17.5 days you'd be doing yourself a disservice by using the Mod1
Anyone that prints in high volume utilizing multiple mod1 (or any) printers realize a cost per liter much less then what these calculations are based around.
This changes the perspectives on cost per print and daily output that can be achieved.
Multitasking small cells can produce production outputs that are impossible to achieve on any single or multi-platform machine to date.

It all comes down to what the end user feels comfortable using.
Every one has a passion towards what they own and if it's works for them that's all that matters at the end of the day.
November 24th, 2010 10:42 AM
kornitguy
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

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Originally Posted by Belquette
What about doing 8 to 10,000 prints a day on Mod1's ?
The cost per ml at these levels fall into a different category.
Assuming that there really is a $.25 difference in favor of the Brother 782 then you'd be spending $2000-$2500 more to own the Mod1 per day. So that $35000 difference would disappear in 14-17.5 days. After 14-17.5 days you'd be doing yourself a disservice by using the Mod1

This is based purely on that $.25 difference in price per print and ignores all other factors. So take it with a large grain of salt.
November 24th, 2010 10:36 AM
Belquette
Re: At $3/shirt, isn't a $55K GT-782 too expensive?

Quote:
Originally Posted by kornitguy
Now if you are only planning on doing 50 prints a day on average then the Mod1 is definitely for you.
What about doing 8 to 10,000 prints a day on Mod1's ?
The cost per ml at these levels fall into a different category.
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