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April 23rd, 2019 09:22 AM
into the T
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

Quote:
Originally Posted by sublial
It amazes me that all of this discussion over a process that I invented as a less costly process to make a 1200x1200 process color onto a dark cotton shirt in only a bout 5 minutes.
To screen print it you have all of that equipment to purchase to make the screens, the set up time to register each screen and etc. All of that to make only one shirt with process color.

Incidently, I am the one who developed the WHITE TONER for the Oki printers to be used for this process.
Now someone showed a vinyl transfer that needed to be cut and weeded. That is a less costly process then a laser or screen printing process if you like to do weeding.

every process has its place in decorating on dark color shirts. that is why there are different sizes of screw drivers in a tool box or why you use a power drill.
Point is. You don,t use the ink jet and white laser toner for dark cotton shirts to make a 100 to 1,000 shirts in process color.
At the same time you don,t screen print in process color 10 shirts for a dark cotton shirt.
You should enjoy the progress in our industry for the additional tools now available to us all to increase the sales to your customers at reasonable time and cost.
AL
exactly al

it's like forever laser for darks, it is simply one process to get from point a to point b

you take a bus, i drive a lambo
but we still meet at point b for coffee and snacks
April 23rd, 2019 05:06 AM
sublial
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

It amazes me that all of this discussion over a process that I invented as a less costly process to make a 1200x1200 process color onto a dark cotton shirt in only a bout 5 minutes.
To screen print it you have all of that equipment to purchase to make the screens, the set up time to register each screen and etc. All of that to make only one shirt with process color.

Incidently, I am the one who developed the WHITE TONER for the Oki printers to be used for this process.
Now someone showed a vinyl transfer that needed to be cut and weeded. That is a less costly process then a laser or screen printing process if you like to do weeding.

every process has its place in decorating on dark color shirts. that is why there are different sizes of screw drivers in a tool box or why you use a power drill.
Point is. You don,t use the ink jet and white laser toner for dark cotton shirts to make a 100 to 1,000 shirts in process color.
At the same time you don,t screen print in process color 10 shirts for a dark cotton shirt.
You should enjoy the progress in our industry for the additional tools now available to us all to increase the sales to your customers at reasonable time and cost.
AL
April 22nd, 2019 11:13 PM
adriatic
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

Yes that is one point of view
But can you pint on Dark with white ink with € 200 - 300 initial investment



And one design at time
April 22nd, 2019 06:24 PM
binki
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

Here are the better options in no order,

1) Screen Print
2) Screen Print 4 color process
3) Discharge print
4) Plastisol spot color transfer
5) Plastisol 4 color process
6) Cut Vinyl
7) Printed Vinyl
8) I am sure others will chime in
9) Crayons on a paper taped to the shirt

Sublimation on cotton is not the right process for the substrate, it is that simple. Pick your substrate, pick your process that works with it and go with it. All others are SJE (Slow, Jerky, Expensive)

Good Luck, You're Welcome
April 21st, 2019 01:25 PM
webtrekker
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

Ok. I'm out!
April 21st, 2019 06:08 AM
adriatic
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

Here is one No Cut sample
Done with the same printer sublimation ink and extra White Cartridge and house hold ordinary iron. You need to have two suitable transfer paper. One is TT transfer paper and the other one is CT transfer paper


First you print in WCYM ink configuration for White BACKGROUND. Then you use second printer or BCYM ink set on the same printer. You print on CT transfer paper.



You transfer first white background on dark fabrics. After that you marge CT color printout on white, As a CT transfer paper is clear transfer paper there is no problem at all about proper and perfect merging
Enjoy. Simple and cheep.
April 21st, 2019 12:29 AM
webtrekker
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

I could believe in anything if it involved bacon: cotton sublimation, unicorns, black holes and the Big Bang being but a few of them.
April 20th, 2019 10:18 PM
NoXid
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

Quote:
Originally Posted by binki
Yum! It still isn't bacon. Bacon is like meat candy!
I sometimes order a cheeseburger as a carrier for bacon. I never, ever, would eat a burger sans bacon. I used to eat veggie burgers ... with bacon



With all due respect to those looking for, or in possession of, processes for sublimating cotton, ink does not sublimate into cotton. It is physically impossible. Sublimating a substrate that one sticks onto cotton is sticking something onto cotton, not sublimating cotton.

And one reason to go that route is to use a single printer and inkset for all transfers, be they for sublimation mugs, poly shirts, or cotton garments. It's a process that will make sense for some people and scenarios. But it is not the unicorn the name implies, or that people are looking for when they start threads like this.

Hmmm ... charred unicorn burger ... with bacon
April 20th, 2019 05:50 PM
binki
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

Quote:
Originally Posted by webtrekker
I was issued a patent for turkey bacon I'll have you know! 😉
Yum! It still isn't bacon. Bacon is like meat candy!
April 20th, 2019 02:45 PM
webtrekker
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

Quote:
Originally Posted by binki
For the life of me I can't understand why anyone would want to do this when there are so many other alternatives. To me this is like turkey bacon, it is just the word turkey followed by the word bacon but in now way is it bacon.
I was issued a patent for turkey bacon I'll have you know! 😉
April 20th, 2019 12:06 PM
binki
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

For the life of me I can't understand why anyone would want to do this when there are so many other alternatives. To me this is like turkey bacon, it is just the word turkey followed by the word bacon but in now way is it bacon.
April 20th, 2019 11:12 AM
adriatic
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

Just take a look at this below image
This is simple and easy process
Yes this is sublimation ink
Only you need to have a suitable cutter if you do not want all white background
April 20th, 2019 09:20 AM
webtrekker
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

Quote:
Originally Posted by sublial
I was issued a patent in 5-27-14 for sublimation printing onto Dark cotton with the combination of white toner PERIOD.

1-
it isn,t rocket science to understand.

You print the sublimation on the B paper while you are printing a white mask with white toner on the A paper at the same time.

You then marry the two sheets together after registering them on a light table.

Then you apply the A paper to the shirt pressing it from the backside of the shirt for 50 seconds at 375 F.

Peel cold and the DYES from the sublimation fully outgas into the coating of the B paper that is adhered to the cotton shirt in 1200x1200 resolution.

I have made a video finally and am waiting for my web master to edit it for me so I can post it on You tube.

I will notify the forum in the next couple of weeks.

AL
With all due respect, that isn't direct sublimation to cotton. It's another layer ON TOP OF the cotton which holds the sublimated inks.
April 20th, 2019 07:24 AM
sublial
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

I was issued a patent in 5-27-14 for sublimation printing onto Dark cotton with the combination of white toner PERIOD.

1-
it isn,t rocket science to understand.

You print the sublimation on the B paper while you are printing a white mask with white toner on the A paper at the same time.

You then marry the two sheets together after registering them on a light table.

Then you apply the A paper to the shirt pressing it from the backside of the shirt for 50 seconds at 375 F.

Peel cold and the DYES from the sublimation fully outgas into the coating of the B paper that is adhered to the cotton shirt in 1200x1200 resolution.

I have made a video finally and am waiting for my web master to edit it for me so I can post it on You tube.

I will notify the forum in the next couple of weeks.

AL
April 19th, 2019 04:41 AM
webtrekker
Re: Sublimation printing on dark garments?

So, the answer is, after all of this discussion -

NO! You can NOT directly sublimate on dark garments. END OF! Get over it.
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