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October 14th, 2014 10:38 AM
jimcr
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

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Originally Posted by debbbbsy
I apologise for the misunderstanding,I did mean spot colours, of course you can print a multcolour design using trichomatic inks.

But you can also print more than 4 spot colours on a 4 colour carousel, it would depend on the design.

Today we printed 3500 white t's. Too look at the T , you count 8 colours but we only printed with 5 screens. we used 3 trichomatic screens, cyan, magenta, and yellow, but also 2 spot colours light pink and dark purple. The design is full chest and looks amazing.

Debbie
you need to post some screen shots , were dying here.
October 14th, 2014 09:38 AM
debbbbsy
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

I apologise for the misunderstanding,I did mean spot colours, of course you can print a multcolour design using trichomatic inks.

But you can also print more than 4 spot colours on a 4 colour carousel, it would depend on the design.

Today we printed 3500 white t's. Too look at the T , you count 8 colours but we only printed with 5 screens. we used 3 trichomatic screens, cyan, magenta, and yellow, but also 2 spot colours light pink and dark purple. The design is full chest and looks amazing.

Debbie
October 13th, 2014 09:02 PM
sben763
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

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Originally Posted by jimcr
Ok are the colors that you used , white ,orange,yellow, green?
White, scarlet red or super drake red can't remember on the red, lemon yellow but golden yellow could have been used with a better looking print but the lemon was closer to ten original, green. In simulated prints I rarely use orange unless there is no red, brown or tan was made. Basically if no red is needed to simulate another color. This was actually the first print that I couldn't believe between the yellow, red and the black in the shirt that orange, brown, a redish brown, tan. Since then I have done about 20 print where this was used. Now with Simple Seps 4 having the interlocking feature it actually improves the ink coverage which would have improved the vibrance of the print and allowed the use of maxopaque inks.
October 13th, 2014 08:06 PM
jimcr
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

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Originally Posted by sben763
That particular print was International coatings 7014 legacy white, the rest were 700 series. so just standard opcity inks. I almost would like to retry using the Union max opaque inks. but no time!!
Ok are the colors that you used , white ,orange,yellow, green?
October 13th, 2014 07:35 PM
sben763
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

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Originally Posted by jimcr
Sean are they special colors or just std off the shelf inks?
That particular print was International coatings 7014 legacy white, the rest were 700 series. so just standard opcity inks. I almost would like to retry using the Union max opaque inks. but no time!!
October 13th, 2014 07:18 PM
jimcr
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

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Originally Posted by sben763
Overprints or simulated same thing. Its just where 2 colors can make a third or forth color. You would be amazed with how many colors can be made with just 2-3 colors and the shirt color.
Sean are they special colors or just std off the shelf inks?
October 13th, 2014 12:04 PM
sben763
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

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Originally Posted by ka24e510
what is "overprints" and how do you do that to obtain that many colors? is it like CMYK?

Overprints or simulated same thing. Its just where 2 colors can make a third or forth color. You would be amazed with how many colors can be made with just 2-3 colors and the shirt color.
October 13th, 2014 11:33 AM
ka24e510
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

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Originally Posted by sben763
Heres a 4 color print!!! Howmany colors do you see. This was simulated with overprints
what is "overprints" and how do you do that to obtain that many colors? is it like CMYK?
October 13th, 2014 11:08 AM
sben763
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

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Originally Posted by jeron
That's exactly what I was taking about. Thanks for the pic lol.

Thanks,
Jeron
Thats why I posted it for a example!!!!!
October 13th, 2014 11:07 AM
jeron
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

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Originally Posted by sben763
Heres a 4 color print!!! Howmany colors do you see. This was simulated with overprints
That's exactly what I was taking about. Thanks for the pic lol.

Thanks,
Jeron
October 13th, 2014 10:34 AM
sben763
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

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Originally Posted by jeron
Your can do a lot with over printing. Depending on the colors. The there is CMYK.

OP put up a picture of what they want and then we can tell you if it will be possible with your press and shirt color

Thanks,
Jeron

Heres a 4 color print!!! Howmany colors do you see. This was simulated with overprints
October 13th, 2014 10:01 AM
jeron
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

Your can do a lot with over printing. Depending on the colors. The there is CMYK.

OP put up a picture of what they want and then we can tell you if it will be possible with your press and shirt color

Thanks,
Jeron
October 13th, 2014 09:58 AM
TYGERON
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

I think I get it though. You probably meant "spot colors", where their orientation in the graphic matters and colors may be doubled up or tripled up, etc.

The OP didn't specify "spot colors" specifically and exclusively.
October 13th, 2014 09:46 AM
TYGERON
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

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Originally Posted by debbbbsy
I didn't say it was an absolute no.If you actually read my reply properly Tygeron, I actually say it can be done, but it depends on the design.
It depends entirely on the design, in theory it is a no. You cannot print a 7 colour design with a 4 colour carousel.

Maybe you should re-read what you wrote.

What you meant and what you wrote contradict. Above is your exact quote. Maybe you meant that in theory it is a "yes". And you "can" print a 7 color design with a 4 color carousel.
October 13th, 2014 09:36 AM
debbbbsy
Re: 4 color press. 7 color design

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But why, in theory, is it a no?

You sound absolute that you can't do 7 on a 4. Why not?
I didn't say it was an absolute no.If you actually read my reply properly Tygeron, I actually say it can be done, but it depends on the design.
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