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June 6th, 2012 05:14 AM
rottonrabbit
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

I personally have not had any luck with Ryonet White. Every time I print with it, it leaves a rough texture on the shirt.
May 29th, 2012 01:44 PM
poison_iv
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

Thank you for the response.

After looking around online, I've seen quite a few complaints around the same time that I bought white ink from Ryonet. I saw someone who posted that they had a bad batch at some point, so I just emailed Ryonet to express my concerns and hope they send me at least a free sample or something so I can try out their ink again.

I had already given up on it, but if they legitimately had a bad batch and they can send me a white ink that prints as smoothly as I've seen in so many Ryonet videos, I would be very happy to continue purchasing ink from them.



Quote:
Originally Posted by reximages
The name of the game is use what you are happy with. I recently bought another gallon of Ryonet white and have printed a few hundred shirts with that gallon and I love it.

I am in Oregon so maybe the climate of where you are has a bearing on your printing result.

Print on, I say!
May 29th, 2012 11:50 AM
reximages
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

The name of the game is use what you are happy with. I recently bought another gallon of Ryonet white and have printed a few hundred shirts with that gallon and I love it.

I am in Oregon so maybe the climate of where you are has a bearing on your printing result.

Print on, I say!
May 29th, 2012 11:05 AM
poison_iv
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

It's unbelievable to me how many people are saying Ryonet white is smooth and easy to work with... I've only bought two quarts of it but both of them are the same sticky, tacky, stretchy and thick marshmallow fluff consistency. I can use it to print small logos fairly well, but I have trouble clearing a large screen of this stuff. I have tried mixing for 15+ mins with a power drill with different types of mixer attachments and although it helps, it's still super hard to work with. I think themost annoying thing to me is how sticky and stretchy it is.

I recently tried a union brand white and I was blown away thy it was not sticky or stretchy. It's creamy like smooth peanut butter, amazing! I thought I was doomed to use sticky white plastisol for ever since so many people recommend the Ryonet, I figured it had to be the best. Now I just want to try them all and see for myself.
September 8th, 2010 01:40 PM
Dwaynec
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

if you are printing on 100% cotton , use cotton inks, not low bleed inks, this could create ghosting issues.
September 6th, 2010 07:27 PM
reximages
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

Use Ryonet white.
September 6th, 2010 04:27 PM
AKBDL Print Co.
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

I use ryonet IC white ink, it works best if you mix it well before use - in addition I find that if I set the containers in hot, very hot water(sealed of course) for 15-20 min prior to mixing then it comes out very smooth and very easy to work with, especially in cooler printing facilities. I keep them in a hot sink - but I never set them in the sink with the lid off as steam will build up over the surface. Makes the white almost as easy as black to work with....almost.
June 18th, 2009 09:06 PM
alan802
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

At this testing phase I would say with some certaintly that the triangle phoenix is the best white I have used over the last three years. It seems that some printers want there white ink to be just like the other colors and just be easy to print as black. I like my white to have a thick consistency but with a high viscosity. That means if I put it on a goop scoop and walk around my press I don't have to worry about it running off my scooper onto the ground. When I put it into the screen I want it to be able to clear through the mesh 110-305 with one stroke. The triangle doesn't seem to get to soft after being out in the 100 degree days and long runs. No matter what I put it through, it retains its original peanut putter consistency. I have several brands of inks that the more you use them the harder and grainier the ink gets. The bucket is only good for the 1st half gallon, no matter what mixing you do.

There are three inks right now that I like and keep in stock, Union diamond white, wilflex quick white and triangle phoenix. I use the union for polys and poly blends and the triangle for everything else. It will go through any mesh count and sets upon the shirt fibers instead of in them. Maybe tomorrow we can post some pics here showing you which prints had which white and you can see subtle differences. Most of the differences are found through an experienced printer. 2 years ago I couldn't tell the difference between ANY white inks but now I know what's in the screen without looking at the bucket that it came out of.
June 18th, 2009 08:32 PM
InkedApparel
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

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I am using triangle phoenix white and like it more than the others.
would you say Triangle ink is better than most of the other inks out there?

the reason I ask is that I havent really tried any other inks and am wondering when my inks run low..where to go to get some different brands.

Thanks

Inked
June 18th, 2009 06:15 PM
alan802
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

I have tried almost every white on the market except qcm and one-stroke. I have used every type of wilflex, rutland, union and some other lesser known brands. It's been about a year since I used the ryonet so I assume it has gotten better, not that it was bad but wasn't as good as some of the others I had tried at the time.

Every time I try a new white I get at least a gallon and really use it through all typical applications before I judge it. I am using triangle phoenix white and like it more than the others. I've gone through about 3 gallons and noticed that it's consistency does not change the more you use it, as you get close to the bottom of the gallon. It doesn't seem to get overworked or harden over use and time. I've printed through 305's with one stroke and the after-flash tack is low, flash time is fast as well. It has a matte finish and almost a blueish hue/tint but not as much as wilflex quick white.
June 15th, 2009 11:00 PM
TshirtGuru
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

Quote:
Originally Posted by jmlampert23
did you get the buffalo white? that is one of th best. i use wilflex union and rutland.
Nope, I use their bright tiger white.
June 11th, 2009 01:20 PM
turtleprints
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

I use the ryonet White - the Ryopaque... I love it... it gives a great coat - rarely need to lay it down more then once - even on black.

same with the ryopaque colors they have now...


I have used a variety of Union Ink whites - never got that same coverage as with Ryonet.

I haven't tried Wilflex - but Have used their other inks, never really impressed by them.. but that was at least 5 years ago...
May 27th, 2009 03:46 AM
jmlampert23
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

Quote:
Originally Posted by TshirtGuru
Thanks for the response. Unfortunately I had to buy ink quick this morning, so I drove to Midwest Signs near by and bought another 5 gallon pail of Wilflex. Freakin $265!!!! Ah, I wish I had time to test the Ryonet one. Next time.

did you get the buffalo white? that is one of th best. i use wilflex union and rutland.
May 26th, 2009 08:43 PM
InkedApparel
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

get a quart from ryonet..and test it out....maybe you wont like it..maybe you will.....I wont use any other white...

Inked
May 26th, 2009 08:40 PM
TshirtGuru
Re: IC Ryonet White & Union Ink Lightning Low-Bleed White

Quote:
Originally Posted by InkedApparel
the Ryonet white isnt shiny..so I would say its a matte......I use it and love it.....milky , creamy ,,, I dont mix very long maybe just enough to get it even in the screen..... I can usually get a nice opaque with 1 pass.....I do a pull fill stroke with the screen off the shirt...then put the screen in the print position and do a push stroke to print...... almost always is enough to get an opaque white......

Inked
Thanks for the response. Unfortunately I had to buy ink quick this morning, so I drove to Midwest Signs near by and bought another 5 gallon pail of Wilflex. Freakin $265!!!! Ah, I wish I had time to test the Ryonet one. Next time.
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