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Justin Walker July 23rd, 2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TPrintDesigner (Post 1141018)
What size was the print?

The overall print speed is definitely a factor to consider - when my staff is printing, we try to have both machines running simultaneously (obviously the other machine is Dual-CMYK, so unfortunately I couldn't boost up the production speed by printing on both machines for this order). With both machines running we are pretty much cranking shirts out all day, which justifies the slower print time for dark garments.

NOTE: For the first two cycles on the machine, you will notice the printer stops at the front for a few seconds before continuing to print - this is because I was sending the job from the RIP "one copy at a time". Once I switched to sending multiple copies you see that I do not need to press a button on the machine to make it come forward and start the next round - this speeds up the process slightly, as well. It is the little things you have to keep an eye on!

The size of the print I am running in the video is about 10" x 10" or so - we ran a sample in Production Mode (hoping it would meet our standards so we could knock these out much faster) and it came pretty close, but the difference was too noticeable for my particular taste. However, if we had decided to run production mode the prints would certainly be faster!

Justin Walker July 23rd, 2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by 23spiderman (Post 1141037)
what do you use on your bed that allows you to remove/replace the platens so quickly? just marks on the bed, or is there some kind of stops used to easily slide the platen into place?

We have placed corner marks using a thick double-sided tape roll - each of the platens slides right into place and stops when it comes in contact with the raised "bumpers" - no reason to spend a bunch of time trying to line up the platens when you are in a hurry trying to knock out t-shirts! :D

Justin Walker July 23rd, 2012 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by abmcdan (Post 1141058)
Do you do the complete pretreatment with a paintbrush only?

Hey Andy! I am using the ViperONE PT machine to spray the shirts with pre-treat fluid (the machine with the vibrant yellow platen, in the video), then I use the Wooster brushes to push the fibers flat - once I have brushed each shirt, then I heat press it and toss it in the stack for printing.

If anyone wants more information about the Wooster brushes we use for the PT portion of the process, check out the following link:

Use High Quality Wooster Brushes to Help Minimize Fibrillation | DTG Print Solutions

102557 July 23rd, 2012 12:10 PM

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Cool stuff Justin!!:)
I think you work more than me..lol You will start working even more with the new baby.. lol they are expensive!! I dont think i ever congratulated you on the new arrival coming soon in all the times we talked, i appologize and a big congrats to you and the misses!! Love the posts on facebook!! the pregnancy snacks!! etc "the taco bell graphic made me laugh for an hour!! .. I have a boy on the way also, due in september my 4th baby!! you will have alot of fun, kids are awesome:p

Jon Borno July 23rd, 2012 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin Walker (Post 1141064)
lol. Is there something I need to do on my end to ensure that this video can be viewed around the world? Or does Germany simply not respect the Neoflex??? :mad:

For me was no problem too see it. I know how to configurate my browser. The problem is the music.

13 Stitches July 23rd, 2012 07:59 PM

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Justin,
We loved watching your video and of course have many questions. Like it looks like you are hitting the Viper button twice, we only hit ours once-is yours an older model? You are rolling it and we use a wagner brush-does a roller help the pretreat adhere better? You press before you pretreat, we press before we print, but after the pretreat, does that make the pretreat adhere better as well?
Why all the pretreat questions? Well, right now we are freaking out with our product. We have tested lots of shirts and do not understand how we what seems to be getting the product perfect, and continue to have sticking problems. I just did a run of 60 shirts, that are going to be sold in a surf shop. We tested them with a couple of washes and drys. When we wash the ones we did for ourselves, a few of the shirts are sticking together in the wash! We did not even get them in the dryer. We are using the Anvil #980's, which were made in four different countries, 4 turns of the ViperOne. One set of 2 washes, not turned inside out, one dry,but first two washes were turned inside out,warm water-no problems. Tonight we washed them and they stuck together in the wash. What if this happens to the 60 shirts that are in the surf shop? Why is this happening? We were told our humitiy seemed good but we do not have a humitidy gun you showed a picture of. How can we possibly ever get it right-can you tell I am upset? I am going to put out a post and ask for advice. I do not know what we could be doing wrong-especially after it washed fine first couple of times. Another shirt stuck together too, that had been washed 4 times and dryed, stuck together this last time. How does one sell a product with confidence, and not worry that when the customer gets it home, it will stick together? No doubt the prints are great but if they do not last I will be out of business by reputation alone.
Thank you for your input-it's so appreciated.

VTG July 23rd, 2012 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 13 Stitches (Post 1141304)
Why is this happening? We were told our humitiy seemed good but we do not have a humitidy gun you showed a picture of. How can we possibly ever get it right-can you tell I am upset? I am going to put out a post and ask for advice. I do not know what we could be doing wrong-especially after it washed fine first couple of times. Another shirt stuck together too, that had been washed 4 times and dryed, stuck together this last time. How does one sell a product with confidence, and not worry that when the customer gets it home, it will stick together? No doubt the prints are great but if they do not last I will be out of business by reputation alone.
Thank you for your input-it's so appreciated.

Don't freak out, I'll bet the NeoFamily will chime in to help you solve your problem. :) When you write up your new thread try to include the specific steps you are taking from start to finish ... include relevant details, like your PT process, heat press settings (time, temp, pressure), curing process ... this info will help folks understand what may be causing the issue your having.

13 Stitches July 23rd, 2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by VTG (Post 1141309)
Don't freak out, I'll bet the NeoFamily will chime in to help you solve your problem. :) When you write up your new thread try to include the specific steps you are taking from start to finish ... include relevant details, like your PT process, heat press settings (time, temp, pressure), curing process ... this info will help folks understand what may be causing the issue your having.

I posted already but will go and add that information. We are following the instructions from training for the pretreat.

Thank you for your kindness. I do not know what we will say to the vendor of the 60 tees if the customer has a problem with them-it hurts their reputation as well,and they just bought the surf shop and have been doing a great job getting it back in it's feet.

allamerican-aeoon July 24th, 2012 05:35 AM

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No one seems sleeping. After midnight posts are all over. NeoOwls.:)
Sally, let's back to solve your freaking mystery. Wake up Sally!
Cheers! Beers are on me always.

g.lupo July 24th, 2012 08:23 AM

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after you pretreat are you using a foam roller or a brush, I couldnt tell, ive been suing a foam roller.

23spiderman July 24th, 2012 08:30 AM

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Justin uses Wooster paint brushes after spraying. i use a plastic sign vinyl squeegee, as using foam makes no sense to me since it would absorb some of the pretreat. however, i need to try the Wooster way to see the difference.

g.lupo July 24th, 2012 08:34 AM

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yoru right it absorbs some, but i guess after so many trials and doing that from get go from training, i have my settings down to where it dead on, but i have no problem trying other methods, thanks spider

Stitch-Up July 24th, 2012 11:18 AM

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I used to ue a foam roller but found it was taking pre-treat off the shirt! I now use a hard rubber roller and it works well.

allamerican-aeoon July 24th, 2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Justin Walker (Post 1141063)
The order I am printing in the video is due in the client's hands tomorrow, but the full order is 105 units WITH DTG printing, screen printing, rhinestones AND foil! I have a feeling tonight will be another very long night.......

I am off to LA to buy a bucket load of rhinestones! :D

Keep making that big bucks.:) I am sure you are too busy to read here. Long night again? Where did you find time for having baby? But you managed well :) lol. Congrat I mark date on my calendar 12/12. You will receive surprise from AA.
Can you show NeoFamily your foil technique? Is it screen print foil or Dtg foil? Your YouTube has 77 visitors. Double lucky seven.
Cheers! Beers are on me always.

Racer July 24th, 2012 06:07 PM

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Someone asked how Justin was able to line up the platens so quickly. I realized that maybe everyone did not know about how he did it.We bought our Neo through Justin and he and Ricky came to our shop and set it up for us. They put double stick tape on the bed so it was easy just to butt the platen up to the tape and it was in the correct place. I thought that was how it was supposed to be. Well after a while the tape gets ragged so we cut our own strips out of 1/8" pvc and attached them in place with double sided banner tape. Its very clean and durable and even someone like me can get the platens in the correct place. If your not doing this give it a try , it makes things much quicker.


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